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I CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE TO ORDER.
THIS IS MEETING NUMBER 19 OF THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE.
[ ROLL CALL]
MADAM CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL? . ALL MEMBERS PRESENT. THANK YOU.TODAY WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING SESSION IN HONOR AND MEMORY OF THE BELOVED ROBERT H.
LIPP, WHO WAS THE PARTNER OF OUR OWN, BOBBY GRABER.
ROB WAS A PILLAR IN THE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY AND HAS A HUGE FAMILY THAT WILL MISS HIM IMMENSELY.
I'M REQUESTING A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN HONOR OF THE LIFE AND LOVE OF ROB LIPP.
AND OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH CLARK, ROBERT GRABER AND THE FAMILY OF ROBERT CLIFF.
TODAY'S INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE.
THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED IF YOU ARE ABLE.
WE HAVE A UNIQUE AGENDA BEFORE US TODAY.
[ NOMINATION & ELECTION OF CLERK ]
2023, THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2023.I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE MAJORITY LEADER MEYERS.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO PLACE THE NOMINATION OF OLIVIA M.
OWENS FOR CLERK OF THE LEGISLATURE.
I HAVE A PETITION SIGNED BY ALL 11 MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATURE CONCURRING WITH THAT NOMINATION.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER. I'M SORRY.
I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST TRYING TO SPEAK ON.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS HERE VERY QUICKLY.
WELL, YOU DON'T, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T GET 30 PLUS YEARS OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE IN A YEAR, RIGHT? SO, IT'S A JOB THAT YOU GROW INTO AND FULFILL THAT HOPEFULLY I WON'T BE HERE, BUT IN 25 YEARS, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE REPLACEMENT FOR OLIVIA.
SO, WHAT BETTER WAY OF MOVING FORWARD THAN HAVING THE DISCIPLES OF BOBBY, RIGHT? OLIVIA AND BOBBY ARE CONNECTED AT THE HIP, YOU KNOW? SO ALL OF US ARE TOGETHER ON THE SAME PAGE.
I THINK EVERYBODY'S CONFIDENT IN OLIVIA'S ABILITIES.
I'D LIKE TO CONGRATULATE HER AND JUST WISH HER NOTHING BUT THE BEST.
THANK YOU. WELL SAID, MAJORITY LEADER, WE HAVE A PROPER NOMINATION, A PROPER MOTION TO NOMINATE ME BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON.
CAN I JUST HAVE THIS A FEW SECONDS? YOU MAY, SIR. OKAY.
TODAY, IT'S AN HONOR TO SECOND THE NOMINATION OF MISS OLIVIA OWENS.
I'M GOING TO CALL YOU. I'M GOING TO RENAME YOU AS THE FIXER.
IT'S HISTORIC BECAUSE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THE WOMAN.
BUT NOT ONLY HAVE THE FIRST WOMAN OF COLOR TO BE THE CLERK IN THE LEGISLATURE.
AND TO THAT, TODAY IS A VERY HISTORIC DAY.
I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF KNOWING OLIVIA FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.
SHE WAS A VOLUNTEER AND ALL THE WORK SHE HAS DONE, AND SHE SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN THE INDIVIDUAL WHO, WHEN SHE HAD A TASK, SHE WAS ABLE TO COMPLETE IT AND SHE DID IT IN A CALM, COOL, COLLECTIVE WAY.
SO I KNOW, OLIVIA, YOU'LL BE A YOU WILL BE A BREATH OF FRESH AIR TO THIS BODY.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO AS BOBBY DRAPER, BUT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO PUT YOUR OWN SPIN ON THINGS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S MY HONOR TO PUT YOUR NAME AND PUT YOUR NAME ON THE NOMINATION.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER NOMINATION AND A SECOND TO THAT NOMINATION.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.
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ALL IN FAVOR ON THE MOTION TO CLOSE NOMINATIONS.ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
WE HAVE A PROPER MOTION AND A SECOND FOR OLIVIA OWENS ON THE QUESTION.
ANY OTHER MEMBERS WISH TO SPEAK? OKAY. AND WITH THE VOTE ON THE ELECTION OF OLIVIA OWENS AS CLERK OF THE LEGISLATURE FOR 2019 THROUGH DECEMBER 30TH.
I'M SORRY. OCTOBER 19TH, 2023 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2003.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MS. OWENS IS NOW THE HONORABLE OLIVIA M OWENS AND THE CLERK OF THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR.
OLIVIA MAKES HISTORY TODAY, BEING THE YOUNGEST PERSON IN HISTORY TO EVER CLERK THIS HONORABLE BODY AND THE FIRST BLACK AMERICAN IN HISTORY TO EVER CLERK THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF COUNTY GOVERNMENT IN ERIE COUNTY.
GOD BLESS YOU, OLIVIA. A COUPLE OF WORDS, PLEASE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, EVERYONE, AND THANK YOU TO THE LEGISLATORS FOR VOTING FOR ME. I'M VERY EXCITED TO HOLD THIS POSITION, AND I'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO LEARN EVERYTHING THAT IS NECESSARY TO DO IT.
I WANT TO ESPECIALLY THANK MY MOM AND MY SIBLINGS FOR THEIR SUPPORT OF ME ALWAYS.
I HAVE HAD BIG DREAMS SINCE I WAS A KID, AND MY MOM HAS ALWAYS BEEN MY NUMBER ONE CHEERLEADER, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE HER SUPPORT AND AS WELL AS MY SIBLINGS FOR THEIR CONTINUED LOVE OF ME AND MY CRAZINESS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK MY MENTORS, ERIC RYAN AND JEREMY ZELLNER.
THEY HAVE BOTH SUPPORTED ME THROUGH AND THROUGH THROUGH MY WORK IN GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS.
AND THEN ONE FINAL THING FOR YOU, TOO, CHAIRWOMAN BASKIN.
IT'S JUST SO AMAZING TO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF ANOTHER BLACK WOMAN IN GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS.
IT REALLY MEANS THE WORLD TO ME THAT SHE SUPPORTS ME AND ALL OF MY ENDEAVORS.
SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE AND CAN'T WAIT TO SERVE AS CLERK.
FOR THE MOMENT IN COUNTY GOVERNMENT HISTORY.
CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
ITEMS FOR RECONSIDERATION FROM OUR PREVIOUS MEETING.
THERE ARE NONE. MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
[ MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING - Meeting No. 18]
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR MEETING NUMBER 18.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE MEETING.
MINUTES FOR MEETING NUMBER 18 MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
PUBLIC HEARINGS. THERE ARE NONE.
[ MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS:]
MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE ONE AND CONTINUED ON TO PAGE THREE.MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. THE MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTION ARE NOT BEFORE THE BODY.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO AMEND TO INCLUDE SPONSOR.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
THE RESOLUTIONS ARE AMENDED, MAJORITY LEADER.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO APPROVE, AS AMENDED.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. THE MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED, AS AMENDED.
[ LOCAL LAWS:]
CONTINUING ON TO LOCAL LAWS.THROUGH AND INCLUDING LOCAL LAW.
[ COMMITTEE REPORTS:]
COMMITTEE REPORTS.REPORT NUMBER NINE FROM THE FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
MEYERS HAS BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
REPORT NUMBER 14 FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
MOVE FOR MEETING, CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
THERE'S BEEN A MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
APPROVAL MADE BY COMMITTEE CHAIR JOHNSON.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR TODARO ON THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
REPORT NUMBER 14 FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
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COMMITTEE CHAIR JOHNSON.WE ARE MEETING CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
AND REPORT NUMBER TEN FROM THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE CHAIR GILMORE, MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
APPROVAL. SECOND, A PROPER MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
APPROVAL MADE BY COMMITTEE CHAIR GILMORE.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
[ LEGISLATOR RESOLUTIONS:]
LEGISLATOR. RESOLUTIONS.INTRO 19E-1 OF LEGISLATOR MEYERS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
OKAY. ONE SECOND. THERE'S BEEN A MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
AND A PROPER SECOND ON THE QUESTION.
ON THE QUESTION? THIS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MOVE CLARIFICATION EITHER IN A COMMITTEE OR OTHERWISE.
THAT THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE ASYLUM SEEKERS OR MIGRANTS CAN'T MOVE INTO THE COUNTY WITHOUT A PRIOR APPROVAL, AND THAT THE VIOLATION IS $1,000 PER MIGRANT.
AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW, NUMBER ONE, IF WE HAVE IF THAT THAT SAYS THAT THE VIOLATION OF THE PROVISION OF THE LAWS WOULD BE PUNISHABLE BY A FINE IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,000 PER MIGRANT PER DAY, PAYABLE TO THE COMPTROLLER OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
AND I'M JUST I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE BEING DISCUSSED IN THE STATE AND I WOULD ASK, MAYBE BE LEFT THERE JUST BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ASKING COUNTIES TO PAY 1000, LIKE WE'D BE PAYING 1000 IF WE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT THIS PRIOR APPROVAL.
IT'S A I KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL WORRIED ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE SHARING IN THE YOU KNOW, THIS 100,000 PEOPLE CAME TO THE UNITED STATES AND WE'RE GIVING 500.
AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS APPLICABLE.
AND I JUST THINK WE MAYBE SHOULD TALK ABOUT IT MORE BEFORE WE VOTE ON.
OKAY. $20 PER DAY FOR MIGRANTS.
POINT OF CLARITY THIS RESOLUTION IS IN SUPPORT OF A STATE BILL.
CORRECT. MINORITY LEADER OKAY.
AND SO, COUNCIL, THE LEGISLATOR IS ASKING A QUESTION AFTER A MOTION.
THERE'S BEEN A MOTION IN A SECOND.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE NEEDS TO MAKE A MOTION OR SHE CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO THE SPONSOR.
OKAY. THE LEGISLATOR HAS POSED A QUESTION TO THE MINORITY CAUCUS.
BECAUSE THE $1,000 A DAY AGAINST HIM.
WHO IS IT? WHO'S PAYING THAT? HE'S AGAINST THE COUNTY? OR IS IT AGAINST THE.
YOU KNOW, IT JUST IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT IT, BUT I JUST THIS IS SAYING THAT VIOLATION OF THIS LAW THAT THEY CAN'T, THAT WE'RE RESTRICTING INTER-COUNTY TRAVEL WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL, WHICH IS A PROBLEM.
AND THAT SECOND IS THAT WE'RE INTERFERING WITH INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IS A PROBLEM.
AND THEN THIRD IS THAT WE'RE CHARGING A $1,000 PER DAY FOR MIGRANTS.
BUT WE'RE MAKING THE MIGRANT THING ACTUALLY, RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT COSTING.
I MEAN, IT'S THE COST ISN'T BEING BORNE BY US AS FAR AS OUR SOCIAL SERVICES AND SO FORTH.
BUT NOW IT'S GOING TO BE $1,000 PER DAY PER MIGRANT.
WHO'S GOING TO PAY THAT? AND WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF PAYING $1,000 A DAY FOR MIGRANTS? 500 ONE HALF $1 MILLION? WHO'S GOING TO PAY THIS FINE TO THE STATE? AND HOW DOES IT HELP YOUR COUNTY? I'M NOT A STATE LEGISLATOR, BUT I DO BELIEVE WE'VE COME OUT OF THE HONORABLE MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY.
NO. WHY NOT? WHY NOT? HE'S SENDING HIM.
SENDING HIM OUT OF NEW YORK CITY INTO REGIONS OF ERIE COUNTY.
WHY? DIDN'T SAY YOU DIDN'T HEAR THE FIRST.
WHAT? DID YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? WHO'S GOING TO PAY IT? MAYOR. THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY IS GOING TO PAY, AND HE CAN PAY THE COMPTROLLER OF NEW YORK STATE.
IT'S WAY OUT OF HIS PERSONAL FUNDS OR OUT OF THIS, THE CITY.
RIGHT. I ASSUME THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THANK YOU. I THINK THE CLARIFICATION I THINK YOU LOOK FOR IS THE WAY THESE BILLS ARE WRITTEN.
AND THEN THEY'LL BE COLLECTED BY ALBANY.
OR IF ASSUMING NEW YORK CITY IS IT'S THE MUNICIPALITY WHERE THE MIGRANT WAS ORIGINATED FROM.
AND IS THERE IS THERE IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL THING THAT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING A LAW THAT SAYS THAT IF SOMEBODY TAKES A BUS HERE WITH A CONTRACT TO RENT A HOTEL, THAT A GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL WILL BE, OR THE CITY IS GOING TO BE CHARGED $1,000 PER DAY PER PERSON.
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IT'S I MEAN, I KNOW WE'RE ALL WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THIS, BUT I THINK IT'S LIKE TO THE POINT OF RIDICULOUSNESS IN MY MIND TO SAY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE $1,000 PER PERSON PER DAY, THAT BECAUSE SOMEBODY CROSSED A COUNTY LINE IN AMERICA WHERE TRAVEL IS SUPPOSED TO BE UNRESTRICTED.I JUST THINK IT'S REALLY EXTREMELY OPPRESSIVE AND I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF THE EXACT WORD TO USE. I DON'T WANT TO SAY SOMETHING DISPARAGING, BUT IT'S A IT'S A TO SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CHARGE A FINE OF $1,000 PER DAY PER MIGRANT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO ERIE COUNTY.
HE'S GOING TO GO TO THE STATE COMPTROLLER.
I GUESS AS A FORCE OF ADHERENCE IS A RETROACTIVE, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO MUCH FOR US.
YOU KNOW, JUST SORT OF AN OUTRAGE OF SOMEBODY THAT HAS NO CHANCE OF A BILL GOING THROUGH.
PUTTING IN CRAZY KIND OF OUTLANDISH THINGS TO SAY.
YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE FOR SOMEBODY TO BUFFALO $1,000 A DAY PER PERSON.
IT'S, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE BIT IF WE MOVE THEM OUT OF ERIE, IF THEY LEAVE ERIE COUNTY, ERIE COUNTY, THEN GOING TO BE LIABLE BECAUSE THE MIGRANT LEFT ERIE COUNTY WENT TO ONEIDA COUNTY, IT WOULD BE AND LIVES THERE FOR TEN YEARS.
ARE WE GOING TO BE PAYING $1,000 A DAY FOR TEN YEARS? BECAUSE SOMEBODY LEFT WITHOUT PRIOR APPROVAL OF ORLEANS COUNTY TO HAVE THIS PERSON MOVE THERE? IT'S A LITTLE BIT AGGRESSIVE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MUCH.
AND I DO AGREE WITH YOU SAYING THAT THINGS GO INTO COMMITTEE, BUT I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD GO TO COMMITTEE TO, TO JUST TALK ABOUT, SO THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE FAIR AND JUST AND ACTUALLY LEGAL TO DO.
SO, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MAKE IT GO TO COMMITTEE, OR AT LEAST TO VOTE AGAINST TO HAVE IT.
PEOPLE VOTE AGAINST HAVING IT BE IMMEDIATELY CONSIDERED NOW.
THERE'S BEEN A MOTION BY LEGISLATOR VINAL TO SEND THE ITEM TO COMMITTEE.
IS THERE A SECOND? ONE SECOND. IS THERE A SECOND? HEARING NONE. WE'LL GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS MOTION, WHICH WAS TO APPROVE.
THERE'S BEEN A SECOND AND WE ARE NOW BACK ON THE QUESTION.
LEGISLATOR MALCZEWSKI ON THE QUESTION.
SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PROCESS IS MAYOR ADAMS IS DICTATING WHAT'S BEST FOR ERIE COUNTY RESIDENTS.
WE NEED TO PUT CONTROL BACK IN THE HANDS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS DOING RIGHT HERE.
THIS IS WHAT THIS IS PROPOSING.
SO I ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
LEGISLATOR MALCZEWSKI, ON THE QUESTION ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
LEGISLATOR JOHNSON, YOU HAVE JUST A QUESTION FOR THE SPONSORS OF THIS RESOLUTION.
HAVE YOU GUYS TALKED TO ANY STATE SENATORS AND ASSEMBLY OR THE SENATE IN REGARDS TO THIS BILL TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT WITH THIS? WE MET IN PERSONAL CONVERSATION.
WE HAVE NOT HAD PERSONAL CONVERSATIONS, SO WE JUST LOOKED AT THE RESOLUTION.
YEAH. NO NO, NO. HAVE YOU GUYS TALKED IN WRITING? YOU DID BACKGROUND CHECKS? WE DID A BACKGROUND CHECK.
SO YOU TALKED TO ANYONE IN THE STATE OR ASSEMBLY? WE TALKED TO I BELIEVE WE TALKED TO MY STAFF HAS TALKED TO THEIR STAFF.
WE DID BACKGROUND CHECKS ON SOME OF THESE.
WE'D LIKE TO DO THAT. SO, WE'RE NOT JUST SHOOTING, YOU KNOW GETTING THE INFORMATION.
YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T CARE IF IT'S 1000 OR $10,000 A DAY.
HAS THIS HAS THIS BEEN PASSED IN THE STATE OR ASSEMBLY OR IS IT STILL SIGNIFICANT? NO, THE BILL IS NOT BEEN VOTED ON YET IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AND A PROPER SECOND ROLL CALL.
VOTE ON THE MOTION. ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE.
VOTING NO ON THIS. EXPLAINING MY VOTE THAT IT'S WON'T.
WE HAVE 500 PEOPLE IN ERIE COUNTY, AND THEY MAY LEAVE ERIE COUNTY.
OUR COUNTY MAY ASSIST IN THE PAYMENT OF ERIE OF THEM LEAVING ERIE COUNTY.
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AND I DON'T WANT THE ERIE COUNTY TO BE FINED $1,000 A DAY FOR COUNTY, FOR EVERY PLACE THAT THESE MIGRANTS END UP OR THESE ASYLUM SEEKERS END UP. AND I THINK IT'S A, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE SHOULD BE THINKING A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF WHETHER, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS GOING TO COME BACK TO HELP.IF THERE IS COST AND IT'S GOING TO, IT MAY END UP COSTING US.
SO, FOR THAT REASON, I'M GOING TO VOTE NO AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
AND I'M GOING TO HOPE IN THE SENATE AND THE ASSEMBLY THAT IT GETS MODIFIED TO MAKE IT A FAIRER AND TO ACTUALLY ACHIEVE THE RESULTS OF, YOU KNOW, MAKING A SAFE PLACE IN OUR AREA AND MAKING IT FAIR FOR OUR ERIE COUNTY RESIDENTS.
THANK YOU. LEGISLATOR. MADAM CLERK.
OKAY. SO, THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED.
CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
INTRO 19E-2 FROM LEGISLATOR GREENE, MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION FOR A MEETING.
ALL IN FAVOR? ROLL CALL VOTES. OH.
I'M SORRY. OH, IT WAS A MOTION TO CONSIDER.
WHAT WAS THE PROPER. WHAT DID YOU SAY? WE HAVE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO CONSIDER.
DID YOU JUST. I MADE THE MOTION TO CONSIDER.
YOU MADE A MOTION TO CONSIDER. WE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT.
THERE'S BEEN A THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO CONSIDER.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
OKAY. THE MOTION TO AMEND. I'M SORRY.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO AMEND THE ITEM MADE BY MAJORITY LEADER MEYERS.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMOUR ON THE QUESTION TO AMEND THE ITEM.
DO YOU HAVE THE ITEM? DO YOU HAVE THE AMENDMENT, SIR? OKAY. YOU'RE THE SPONSOR OF THE BILL.
OKAY. THE LEGISLATOR VINAL HAS A QUESTION.
DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK AS THE SPONSOR FIRST? ABOUT THE AMENDMENT.
I THOUGHT WE MADE THE AMENDMENT AND THAT IT'S BEEN PASSED OUT.
OKAY. SO, EVERYONE. OKAY, SO THE AMENDMENT HAS BEEN PASSED OUT ON THE QUESTION TO THE AMENDMENT.
LEGISLATOR VINAL, I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE SPONSOR FOR AMENDING THIS, AND TO JUST POINT OUT MY REASONING OF IT IS, IS THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR POLICE IS SET UP TO BE LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, LOCALLY CONTROLLED.
AND AMHERST IS AN EXCELLENT POLICE FORCE.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST IN OUR WHOLE REGION AND THAT BUT AND SO THEY CHANGED IT TO MAKE IT THAT THE COUNTY SHERIFF CAN COME INTO THE TOWN IF AND WHEN REQUESTED AND NOT JUST BY OUR RESOLUTION HERE.
AND I APPRECIATE THAT. AND THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR THAT. THANK YOU.
LEGISLATOR, ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT, ANY OPPOSED TO THE AMENDMENT? THE ITEM IS AMENDED.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO APPROVE, AS AMENDED.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM, AS AMENDED, MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE ON THE QUESTION.
ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE, AS AMENDED.
I'M GOING TO BE A YES ON THIS.
I THINK FIRST WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT HOME.
YOU KNOW, I GO BACK TO 514, WHICH YOU POINTED OUT EARLY.
YOU KNOW, THERE WAS NOT THIS URGENCY FOR 514 OR ANYBODY TO ADOPT OR PASS OR EVEN TALK ABOUT A RESOLUTION FOR IF WE HADN'T BROUGHT IT UP, I THOUGHT, I THINK THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT ACCESS NOT EVEN HAPPENING IN ERIE COUNTY.
AND WE'VE HAD AN ACT THAT ALREADY HAPPEN IN ERIE COUNTY.
I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S NOT THE SLIGHTEST THING.
LEGISLATOR. LEGISLATOR KOOSHOIAN MEYERS, VINAL.
CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
COMMUNICATIONS DISCHARGE FROM COMMITTEE MAJORITY LEADER MEYERS.
[ COMMUNICATIONS DISCHARGED FROM COMMITTEE:]
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE TWO DISCHARGES MOVED TO DISCHARGE COMMUNICATION 18E-15 FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.[00:25:05]
SECOND, THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO DISCHARGE COMMUNICATION.18E-15. IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE ON THE QUESTION.
I'M SORRY. THERE IS NO QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE DISCHARGE? AYE. ANY OPPOSED THE DISCHARGE? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE ITEM IS NOW BEFORE THE BODY.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO AMEND COMMUNICATION 18E-15 WITH WHAT'S BEEN PASSED OUT.
SECOND. THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO AMEND THE ITEM WITH WHAT'S BEEN PASSED OUT.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THE ITEM IS AMENDED.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO APPROVE COMMUNICATION TO 1815, AS AMENDED.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM, AS AMENDED, MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THE ITEM IS APPROVED, AS AMENDED.
CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO DISCHARGE.
COMMUNICATION 1816 SECOND PUBLIC SAFETY.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO DISCHARGE ITEM.
18E-16, MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE ITEM IS NOW BEFORE THE BODY.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO AMEND COMMUNICATION 1816.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO AMEND THE ITEM MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
SECOND. SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMOUR ON THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? THE ITEM IS NOW AMENDED.
MAJORITY LEADER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MOVE TO APPROVE COMMUNICATION 1816, AS AMENDED.
SECOND. THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION, SO THERE ARE JUST NO QUESTIONS ON DISCHARGES.
OKAY, SO THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS AMENDED.
AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION? THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND THE ITEM IS APPROVED, AS AMENDED.
[ SUSPENSION OF THE RULES:]
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE ONE SUSPENSION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
A RESOLUTION FROM CHAIR BASKIN A RE APPROPRIATION OF 2021 RENEW PLAN FUNDING.
MADAM CLERK. 19 DASH THREE MAJORITY.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED A SECOND AT THIS.
YOU'RE GOOD THOUGH I APPRECIATE IT.
MAJORITY LEADER, ONE MORE TIME.
GIVE ME ANOTHER SECOND. MAJORITY LEADER.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO APPROVE.
IT'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM.
THERE'S BEEN SECONDED BY THE LEGISLATOR, MINORITY LEADER MILLS, ON THE QUESTION.
I'M SORRY. JUST TO JUST TO CLARIFY, WE'RE ON THE ITEM REGARDING ERIE COMMUNITY.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
[ COMMUNICATIONS FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS:]
19E-7 AS INDICATED.COMMUNICATION 19E-8 THROUGH INCLUDING COMMUNICATION 19E-14 AS INDICATED.
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENT'S COMMUNICATION 19E-1 AND COMMUNICATION 19E-2 AS INDICATED.
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COMMUNICATION 19E-1 AND COMMUNICATION 19E-2 AS INDICATED.[ ANNOUNCEMENTS:]
THE NEXT SCHEDULED SESSION OF THE LEGISLATURE IS THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND.ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? PLEASE RISE IF YOU ARE ABLE, FOR MEMORIAL RESOLUTIONS.
[ MEMORIAL RESOLUTIONS:]
WE HAVE SOME ADJOURNMENTS HERE THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED TO SPEAK IN ADJOURNMENT IN THE MEMORY AGAIN OF ROBERT H.LYNN, THE LOVING PARTNER OF BOBBY GRABER, DEVOTED DOG, DAD OF HARPO BEAR, STORMY AND SPRINGY, BROTHER TO KATHY, SHARON, LAURIE, DAVE, LIZ AND THE LATE RICK LIPP.
ADORED UNCLE OF 16 NIECES AND NEPHEWS.
CHERISHED BEST FRIEND OF PATRICK MCNALLY.
PLEASE BE WITH BOBBY AND HIS FAMILY.
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ANY OTHER MEMORIALS TO ACKNOWLEDGE MINORITY LEADER MILLS IS ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF DAVE WOLFLEY COMES FROM A FAMILY OF FOOTBALL STARS AND THE TOWN OF ORCHARD PARK.MALCZEWSKI. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF DANIEL THOMASHEFSKY.
THANK YOU, SIR. I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, LEGISLATOR GRANT.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF THEODORE SZYMANOWSKI.
I'M SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS. LEGISLATOR, LEGISLATOR.
VINAL. I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN MEMORY OF MY BROTHER, ROBERT BEESON SENIOR.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONDOLENCES EXPRESSED.
AND TO LEFT SIX A WIFE AND SIX WONDERFUL KIDS WHO HAVE WONDERFUL SPOUSES AND KIDS OF THEIR OWN AND VERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS OWNER IN WESTERN NEW YORK AND PROVIDER OF MANY JOBS IN WESTERN NEW YORK AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
AND JUST TO JUST TELL YOU ONE THING ABOUT HIM.
HE WAS AT CANISIUS HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT AT THE END.
HE WAS ALWAYS A PERSON FOR A FUN TIME AND A GOOD PARTY AND EVERYTHING.
AND AT THE END SOMETHING HAPPENED ON A FOOTBALL GAME AND HE WAS ACCUSED OF IT.
HE DENIED IT DIDN'T GO FURTHER THAN THAT.
AND THEN TEN YEARS AGO, THE GUY WHO ACTUALLY DID IT WROTE A LETTER SAYING IT WASN'T HIM, IT WAS ME.
LEGISLATOR VINAL, YOU ARE CERTAINLY OUR SISTER COLLEAGUE IN GOVERNMENT AND OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU.
I CAN'T IMAGINE THE LOSS OF A SIBLING.
AND SO JUST KNOW THAT WE ARE KEEPING YOU UPLIFTED IN PRAYER AT THIS TIME.
LEGISLATOR BARGNESI, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN.
AND IT WAS JUST ANNOUNCED A COUPLE OF HIS FATHER PASSED AWAY.
YES, TO GOVERNOR HOCHUL'S FATHER, JOHN JACK COURTNEY, DIED TODAY SUDDENLY AT AGE 87 YEARS OLD.
AND WE JUST HONOR HIS LIFE FOR PROVIDING US WITH SUCH AN ESTEEMED LEADER IN GOVERNMENT.
THANK YOU. LEGISLATOR BARGNESI LEGISLATOR GILMORE.
IT WAS A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE GONE ON TO BE WITH THE LORD.
AMEN. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOTION TO ADJOURN BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON.
SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR GILMORE.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? 11 TO 0. WE STAND ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.