[PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE]
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GOOD MORNING AND WELCOME TO MEETING NUMBER SIX OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
OKAY, ON PAGE ONE, ITEMS ONE THROUGH FOUR WILL REMAIN TABLE UNDER MY AUTHORITY AS CHAIR.
ITEM FIVE IS AN ACTUAL ITEM, COMMUNICATION 8E-27.
THE FIRST RESOLUTION WE HAVE HERE IS RELATED TO THE BOMB SQUAD GRANT FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.
THIS IS FEDERAL MONEY PASSED THROUGH THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.
THE AWARD FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR IS $155,000.
WE'LL BE USING THAT MONEY TO REPLACE OUTDATED BOMB SUITS, X-RAY SYSTEMS, AND ALSO PURCHASE A ROBOTIC PLATFORM FOR THE BOMB SQUAD.
THIS IS SERGEANT THURSTON FROM OUR BOMB SQUAD.
WITH ME BEHIND ME AND CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT ON THE QUESTION MOTION APPROVED THE PROPER SECOND ALL IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES YES GEE GEE IS THERE A PORTION OF THIS FOR THIS NEW PRODUCT THAT'S GOING TO NEED TRAINED PEOPLE TO RUN IT AND THEN HOW AND ARE THEY ALREADY TRAINED NOW OR WILL THEY NEED TRAINING YES, WE ALREADY HAVE.
I MEAN, THEY'RE TRAINED IN THIS NEW MACHINE? YES.
AND THEN AS FAR AS LIKE WHY IS IT FROM 2023? I CAN TAKE THAT, MA'AM.
THAT'S WHERE THE STATE IS AT RIGHT NOW.
IN ITS DISBURSEMENT OF THE GRANTS, DEPUTY PEEL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THAT, BUT THAT'S THE SCHEDULE THE STATE IS CURRENTLY ON, SPECIFICALLY HOMELAND SECURITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES IS CURRENTLY ON.
YOU'LL SEE OUR NEXT ITEM, NOT TO PUT THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, BUT OUR NEXT ITEM IS THE SAME GRANT FOR THE FOLLOWING FISCAL YEAR, 24.
THEY ISSUE THEM ON THEIR SCHEDULE.
AND JUST BECAUSE ON THE $7 MILLION OF OVERTIME...
IS IT BECAUSE, IS SOME PART OF IT BECAUSE OF, LIKE, WHAT IS THE BASIS OF IT? IS IT THE, LIKE, I KNOW YOU'RE DOING CATARAUGA'S COUNTY WORK, AND ORIGINALLY WHEN THEY CAME IN, THEY SAID THEY WERE ONLY GOING TO DO CERTAIN KIND OF WORK, LIKE, YOU KNOW, BIGGER PROJECTS, AND I GOT A CALL FROM SOMEBODY WHO'S IN THE COURTS THERE THAT THEY'RE UPSET THAT PEOPLE ARE DOING TRAFFIC STOPS.
OUR COUNTY SHERIFFS ARE DOING TRAFFIC STOPS AND DOING OTHER THINGS, AND GOT A CALL FROM ANOTHER MOTHER THERE ABOUT THAT.
SO IS IT, LIKE, THAT'S ONE THING, AND THE OTHER THING IS ON THE HELICOPTERS, ARE YOU HIRING, LIKE, TRAINED PILOTS, OR ARE YOU USING WORKERS TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT TO TRAIN THEM ON THE JOB AT THEIR SALARY THAT AREN'T PILOTS? NOTHING YOU JUST BROUGHT UP, MA'AM, HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS GRANT.
THERE'S NO OVERTIME COMPONENT.
NO, BUT YOU HAVEN'T COME IN, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW ABOUT, WE JUST CAME UP LAST.
AT THE LAST SESSION FOR THE BUDGET RECONCILIATION, IT SAID THERE WAS $7 MILLION OF OVERTIME, AND NOBODY WAS HERE, SO THIS IS MY FIRST TIME TO ASK ABOUT WHAT IS THE BASIS OF THE $7 MILLION OF OVERTIME, AND IS IT GOING TO CONTINUE, OR $7 MILLION OVER WHAT WAS ALLOCATED? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR? I'M TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY DID THE BUDGET ALLOCATIONS.
FOR THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR? YEAH.
I DON'T HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU MA'AM RIGHT NOW COULD YOU GET THAT BREAKDOWN AND THEN ANSWER LIKE AS FAR AS IS THE CAT COUNTY THING? EXPANDING THAT WE'RE AT LEAST IN CAT COUNTY.
ARE WE GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THAT? I DON'T BRING TO WITH THAT WE DO ASSIST PART OF SURROUNDING AGENCIES WHEN REQUESTED AND WHEN NECESSARY WHAT YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO I I'M I'M NOT SURE AND WHAT ABOUT FOR THE HELICOPTERS? WHO'S FLYING THE HELICOPTERS? ARE THEY, ARE YOU HIRING, NOW THAT WE HAVE THREE HELICOPTERS, ARE YOU, DID YOU HIRE PILOTS OR ARE YOU TAKING PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE WORKFORCE AND TRYING TO TRAIN THEM TO BE PILOTS? NO, WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO PILOTS ON OUR AVIATION UNIT.
AND WERE THEY, THEY WERE HIRED AS PILOTS? WELL, THEY WERE HIRED AS DEPUTY SHERIFFS AND SUBSEQUENTLY TRAINED AS PILOTS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE FOR ONE OF THEM, THE SECOND ONE.
WAS A PILOT PREVIOUS TO HIM BECOMING A DEPUTY SHERIFF AND IT WAS IF YOU COULD DO THE BREAKDOWN SO WE COULD BECAUSE LIKE SEVEN MILLION DOLLARS IS A HUGE VARIANCE OF OVER SO I WANTED TO SEE ON THIS YEAR IF IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME OR DIFFERENT I MEAN IT WAS ALREADY OVERTIME WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED AND SEVEN MILLION OVER OVERTIME.
THAT'S A BIG, YOU KNOW YEAH, I CAN TELL YOU WITH RESPECT TO OVERTIME THAT WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE BUDGET DIRECTOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE OVERTIME NUMBER FOR FISCAL YEAR 26.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND ALWAYS LOOKING
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FOR WAYS TO BE MORE....FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND ADDRESS THAT NUMBER.
THE THING IS THE LEGISLATURE HAS A PIECE OF IT TOO BECAUSE WE APPROVED THE BUDGET ON THE REPRESENTATIONS THAT THAT WAS THE PREDICTION OF THE OVERTIME.
WE DIDN'T APPROVE 7 MILLION MORE IN ADDITIONAL ON THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.
SO I'M SAYING THAT IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE OUT OF THE LOOP ON IT, THAT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PROVIDE US MORE INFORMATION ON IT.
SO THAT WE CAN PLAN? WHY WAS THAT PRIOR NUMBER SO INACCURATE, AND WHAT CAN WE DO? IS IT SOMETHING ON THE GO FORWARD? IS THAT GOING TO BE THAT EVERY YEAR IT'S ADDITIONAL? WELL, I UNDERSTAND, AND I CAN LOOK TO SEE IF I CAN GET YOU MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
I CAN TELL YOU WITH RESPECT TO...
WITH CONTRACTUAL RAISES ALONE THAT EXIST IN THE PVA CONTRACT, KEEPING THE OVERTIME NUMBER FLAT YEAR OVER YEAR IS NOT PARTICULARLY REALISTIC WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT YOU HAVE TO FACTOR IN THOSE RAISES.
SO JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.
BUT I HEAR YOUR CONCERN AND I CAN LOOK TO SEE IF I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
PAGE 2, NUMBER 6, COMMUNICATION, AE-28.
THIS IS THE SAME GRANT, THE BOMB SQUAD GRANT, FOR THE ENSUING FISCAL YEAR 24.
THE AWARD FOR THAT FISCAL YEAR IS $44,014.
THIS MONEY WILL BE USED TO REPLACE BALLISTIC HELMETS, PPE THAT WE NEED FOR THE BOMB SQUAD, PURCHASE NEW TECH TOOL KITS AS WELL.
THERE'S ALSO A TRAINING ELEMENT TO THIS PARTICULAR GRANT.
IT IS EOD, EXPLOSIVE ORDNANCE DISPOSAL 3D PRINTING TRAINING WITH IMPROVISED ELECTRONICS, LLC.
QUESTION? JUST CURIOUS, 3D PRINTING, WHAT WOULD YOU GUYS USE THAT FOR? A LOT OF THE...
DO WE HAVE THE 3D PRINTERS? DOES THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE HAVE ONE? LIKE, WOULD WE NEED TO PURCHASE ONE? IS THIS JUST THE TRAINING? I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND.
NUMBER SEVEN, COMMUNICATION 8E-09, CHRIS.
THIS IS THE CANAL PATROL GRANT FROM THE NEW YORK STATE CANAL CORPORATION THAT WE RECEIVE ANNUALLY.
ONCE AGAIN, THEY'VE AWARDED US $40,000 TO BOOST OUR OVERTIME PATROLS OF THE BARGE CANAL THROUGHOUT THE BOATING SEASON, WHICH, OF COURSE, IS GOING TO BE GETTING UNDERWAY HERE IMMINENTLY.
ANOTHER QUESTION? MOTION APPROVED.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT WILL RECEIVE THE FILE UNDER MY AUTHORITY AS CHAIR.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? PROPER MOTION TO ADJOURN, PROPER SECOND? WE'RE ADJOURNED, THANK YOU.
[ENERGY & ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE]
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT MEETING, MEETING NUMBER 8.
CHAIR MYERS? PRESENT AS AN EX-OFFICIO MEMBER, QUORUM PRESENT.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO THROUGH THIS.
ITEMS 1 THROUGH 6, 8, 9, 12, AND 13 ARE TABLED.
ITEMS 7, 10, 11, 14, AND 15 ARE TABLED.
ACTIONABLE LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR ACTUAL ITEMS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN MILE STRIP ROAD JOE FIGO GOOD TO SEE YOU JOE GOOD TO SEE YOU AND MORNING WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR US UH WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING TODAY IS AN AMENDMENT AND THEN TO ENTER IN A CONTRACT WE HAVE A UNITED SURVEY TO PERFORM THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE BACKSLOT SEWER BETWEEN MILESTRIP ROAD AND LAKE AVENUE.
WE OPENED BIDS RECENTLY, CAME IN SLIGHTLY UNDER THE ENGINEER'S ESTIMATE, FUNDING IS IN PLACE, SO IT'S OUR RECOMMENDATION TO PROCEED SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THIS CRITICAL SEWER LINE.
OKAY, ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO AMEND.
OPPOSED? OKAY, WE ARE AMENDED.
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WE ARE APPROVED.COMMISSIONER OF RECREATION HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SEEKING YOUR APPROVAL TO ALLOW THE DEPARTMENT TO ISSUE PERMITS FOR FOOD TRUCK AND MOBILE FOOD VENDORS TO OPERATE IN COUNTY PARKS ON A LIMITED AND TEMPORARY BASIS.
FOLLOWING AN EXISTING APPLICATION PROCESS WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE FOR OUR SPECIAL EVENT FOOD VENDOR PERMITS.
YOU CAN SEE OUTLINED IN FRONT OF YOU REASONABLE FEES FOR ONE DAY, TWO DAY, SEVEN DAY, AND SEASONAL PERMITS.
THAT WOULD OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR MOBILE VENDORS TO SELL FOOD IN PRE-DESIGNATED PARKING AREAS IN AREAS WHICH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WOULD SUBMIT AND APPROVE WITH MINIMAL COUNTY RESOURCES REQUIRED, NO INFRASTRUCTURE, NO UTILITIES, SET UP CLEANUP ON OUR STAFF'S PART.
NICOLE, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RECRUIT FOOD TRUCKS TO THOSE CERTAIN PARKS? ARE THEY GOING TO BE IN THEIR TERRITORY? OR HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THE WORD OUT TO THE FOOD TRUCK PEOPLE? YEAH, WE HAVE A MAILING LIST OF FOOD TRUCKS THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST, BUT WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICATION.
AVAILABLE FOR ANYBODY TO ACCESS ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOU KNOW WE CAN POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL TO GET THE WORD OUT REALLY IT'S JUST MAKING SNACKS AND FOOD AVAILABLE YOU KNOW ICE CREAM TRUCK IF THEY WANT TO COME TO BENNETT BEACH ON A HOT WEEKEND THIS IS AN AVENUE TO ALLOW THEM TO DO SO YOU DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH GETTING ENOUGH TRUCKS IN CERTAIN PARKS AT A CERTAIN TIME WE WOULD CONTROL ALL OF THAT.
SO WE WOULD ISSUE A LIMITED NUMBER.
ALLOW A LIMITED NUMBER OF TRUCKS PER LOCATION, PER DATE AND TIME.
WOULD THERE BE A SYSTEM WHERE YOU WOULD MAYBE ROTATE THEM SO ONE TRUCK WOULDN'T BE GETTING THE MOST TIME AND WE'D ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT AREAS TO HAVE EQUAL TIME IN THE PARKS? YEAH, I MEAN, IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW THEY APPLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, AFTER TODAY, WE'LL REALLY FINE-TUNE A PROCESS AND A POLICY.
BUT AS APPLICATIONS COME IN, WE WOULD REVIEW, MAKE SURE IT'S A GOOD FIT, THAT THEY COULD COMPLY WITH THE FIT OF THE APPLICATION.
OF EACH SPECIFIC PARK THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO BE AT, AND THEN GIVE FAIR CHANCE TO ANYBODY WHO'S INTERESTED IN BEING THERE.
SO THEY WOULD NEED A PERMIT FROM US.
IS THERE A FEE FOR THAT PERMIT? YES.
SO THE PERMITS, THE PROPOSED FEES WE HAVE ARE $25 FOR A ONE-DAY PERMIT, $50 FOR A TWO-DAY PERMIT, $100 FOR A SEVEN-DAY PERMIT, AND $250 FOR A SEASON PERMIT.
SO THAT WOULD BE OUR, THE COUNTY'S ONLY REVENUE FOR THIS WHOLE OPERATION? CORRECT.
SO IT'S A NICE OPPORTUNITY FOR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS FOOD TRUCKS TO GET ADDITIONAL IT'S UNLIKE A SPECIAL EVENT WHERE WE KNOW WE WILL HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ATTENDING, SO WE CHARGE $100.
WE MIGHT NOT KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE AT A SPECIFIC PARK ON A SPECIFIC DAY.
SO IT'S A REASONABLE FEE THAT WON'T BREAK THE BANK ON THE PART OF THE VENDORS, BUT IT GIVES THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE SOMEWHERE WHERE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO SELL FOOD BEFORE.
AND THAT'S MY POINT I WAS GETTING AT.
THEY'RE ALMOST ASSUMING ALL THE RISK, BUT FOR NO FEE UP FRONT, BECAUSE IT'S A SLOW DAY IN THE PARK AND THEY'RE NOT MAKING MONEY.
THEY DIDN'T REALLY TAKE ANY RISK AT ALL.
SO I'LL JUST SAY EARLIER, GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOUR POINT, SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT WOULD PROPOSE A NEW FEE, SO IT CAN'T BE APPROVED IN COMMITTEE.
IT WOULD NEED A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, LEGISLATURE, SO I JUST WOULD WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT, THAT THIS CAN'T BE APPROVED TODAY SINCE IT IS A NEW FEE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ONE...
I MEAN LOOKING AT THIS, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHO WOULD GET APPROVED.
WOULD IT BE UP TO THE SOLE DISCRETION OF THE PARKS COMMISSIONER? LET'S SAY HE GETS FIVE.
PERMIT REQUESTS FOR ONE PARK ONE DAY, WHAT WOULD THE CHOICE PROCESS BE ABOUT GIVING THOSE OUT? LIKE HOW DO YOU PICK ONE OVER THE OTHER? WHAT WOULD THAT PROCESS LOOK LIKE? WE WOULD HAVE HAD THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY CAME IN AND ALSO THE TYPES OF SERVICES THEY'RE PROVIDING.
FOR ALL OF OUR EVENTS RIGHT NOW, WE TRY NOT TO ALLOW DUPLICATE SERVICES.
SO WE GENERALLY WOULDN'T ALLOW...
TO COFFEE VENDORS OR TO ICE CREAM VENDORS.
THINGS LIKE FRENCH FRIES AND WHATNOT, EVERYBODY SELLS THOSE.
SO WE LOOK AT THEIR LIST OF SERVICES THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING AND THE AMOUNT OF SPACE THAT WE HAVE FOR THEM TO SAFELY PARK, AND WE MIGHT DECIDE TO APPROVE, LET'S SAY, THREE FOR A SPECIFIC LOCATION, AND THEN IT WOULD BE BASED ON THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY CAME IN AND WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING TO SELL.
COULD WE GIVE A PERMIT WITHOUT CHARGING FOR IT? WE COULD.
I MEAN IT DOES TAKE SOME STAFF APART ADMINISTRATIVELY AND WE DO ALREADY HAVE AN ESTABLISHED FEE FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.
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SO HOW WOULD THIS BE DIFFERENT THAN THAT? SO IF WE ALREADY HAVE THE SPECIAL EVENT, COULDN'T WE JUST GO BY THAT PROCESS ALREADY? WE COULD.THAT PROCESS WAS ESTABLISHED FOR COUNTY EVENTS LIKE FALL FEST AND SANTA LAND.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE TODAY IS JUST ANY RANDOM DAY IN THE YEAR, IF YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR FOOD TRUCK, THIS IS AN AVENUE FOR YOU TO DO SO.
OUR SPECIAL EVENT POLICY IS RATHER VAGUE AND WE DID ALREADY GET APPROVAL ON THAT.
THE FEES FOR THAT ARE $100 FOR FOOD VENDORS AND $50 FOR CRAFT VENDORS.
SO IT SAYS IN HERE THAT IT'S $250 FOR A SEASON.
WHAT DEFINES A SEASON? AND THEN IF YOU'RE GIVING A FOOD TRUCK A PERMIT FOR THE SEASON, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY GET ONE SPOT ALL YEAR LONG AND NOBODY ELSE CAN COME AND GET THAT SPOT? WE HAVEN'T.
COMPLETELY FINE-TUNED EXACTLY HOW THIS WILL WORK, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ON FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND DID DRAFT UP SOME MAPS, DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATIONS OF FOOD TRUCK PARKING LOCATIONS AT DIFFERENT PARKS.
MAYBE A VENDOR IS INTERESTED IN ONE SPECIFIC PARK, SO WE LOCK THEM IN FOR THE ENTIRE SEASON FOR THAT PARK.
MAYBE THEY WANT TO BE AT THREE DIFFERENT PARKS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE SEASON.
IT WOULD WE HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW EXACTLY WE WANT THE PROCESS TO WORK, BUT WE'RE JUST STARTING HERE WITH YOU TODAY TO SEEK YOUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AND CERTAINLY TAKE YOUR FEEDBACK INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO DOES THIS MEAN THAT THE COUNTY PARKS ARE NO LONGER GOING TO BE DOING RFPS TO HAVE THE IN-HOUSE KITCHEN SERVICES THAT...
A PLACE LIKE CHESTNUT RIDGE BECAUSE IF WE'RE STILL ACTIVELY TRYING TO GET VENDORS TO SELL FOOD AT PLACES LIKE ALMA MEADOWS OR WHEREVER ELSE WE HAVE SUCH A STRUGGLE WITH THAT AS IT IS AND NOW IF WE PUT A FOOD TRUCK OUTSIDE ARE WE TOTALLY ABANDONING THAT EFFORT? NO WE'RE NOT.
WE WILL BE ISSUING AN RFP FOR CHESTNUT RIDGE THIS SUMMER.
WITH A BEGIN DATE OF NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER FOR WINTER SPORTS SEASON FOR 2026 THROUGH 2027.
AT THIS POINT, IT'S PRETTY LATE IN THE SEASON TO GO OUT FOR THE GOLF COURSES, SO WE DECIDED WE WEREN'T GOING TO REISSUE FOR THIS SUMMER, BUT WE DO INTEND TO GO BACK OUT IN THE FUTURE.
THIS IS JUST A WAY FOR US TO...
ALLOW VENDORS IN OTHER PARKS, BUT ALSO IN THE MEANTIME BEFORE WE GET A VENDOR, IF WE GET A VENDOR AT THOSE PARKS, WE CAN ALLOW FOOD TRUCKS THERE IN THE MEANTIME.
SO IF WE HAVE, AND I'M CURIOUS, I KNOW LIKE THE PINES IN THE PARKS OR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS, THOSE OPERATE BY THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT, IS THAT CORRECT? SO PINES IN THE PARK, WE PARTNER WITH RESURGENCE, THEY FILL OUT A SPECIAL EVENT APPLICATION AND WE APPROVE THE EVENT.
AND THERE'S NO FEE FOR THEM CURRENTLY? THERE IS NOT A FEE FOR THEM.
SO HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT AN EVENT LIKE THAT IN THE FUTURE? IT WOULD NOT.
WE WOULD JUST LOOK AT OUR EVENTS CALENDAR AND IF THERE WAS ALREADY AN EXISTING EVENT WE WOULD NOT WANT TO CONFLICT WITH THAT.
IF WE HAVE PINTS IN THE PARK THAT RESURGENCE IS COMING TO AND SELLING BEER WHATEVER, THEY AREN'T PAYING A FEE, BUT IF A FOOD TRUCK WANTS TO COME IN PART FOR THE DAY WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE THEM, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO CHARGE RESURGENCE.
RESURGENCE WE HAVE AN MOU WITH, AND THEY CONTRIBUTE 10% OF THEIR SALES.
I JUST THINK THAT THE COMPETING, CONFLICTING WAYS THAT THESE EVENTS GET HANDLED COULD CAUSE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.
COULD WE OFFER AN MOU TO A FOOD TRUCK IN CASE THEY WANTED TO DO THAT INSTEAD OF PAYING FOR THE PERMIT? IF WE GOT INTO A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD CONSIDER.
I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN YEARS IN THE MAKING, BUT IF WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE DEFINITION FOR WHAT A SEASON IS, AND WE'RE ASKED TO APPROVE THIS...
THAT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN ON MY END.
THE SEASON WOULD BE THE GOLF SEASON, IF IT'S GOLF COURSES, THE BEACH SEASON, WINTER SPORTS AT CHESTNUT RIDGE, PLACES LIKE ALMA MEADOWS THAT HAVE BUSY WINTER SPORTS.
IT'S JUST EXACTLY THE NITTY-GRITTY OF IF ONE TRUCK WANTS TO BE IN MULTIPLE PLACES THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE SEASON.
GETTING THEM PLUGGED IN AND HOW TO CONTROL THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SEASONAL PERMITS WE WOULD ISSUE.
BECAUSE THEN IT'S INTERESTING, TOO.
SO YOU HAVE ONE PRICE PER SEASON, BUT LET'S SAY WE CALL A SEASON, LIKE YOU SAID, IF IT'S THE GOLF SEASON, THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE WEATHER, IT COULD BE MAY, IT COULD BE JUNE TO NOVEMBER, OCTOBER MAYBE.
BUT THEN THE WINTER SEASON WE'RE GOING TO CALL, WHAT, JUST LIKE THREE MONTHS.
SO IF WE'RE CHARGING SEASONALLY BUT IT'S DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF TIME, THAT'S A CONCERNING INCONSISTENCY.
SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THOSE DETAILS JUST AS WE MOVE
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FORWARD WITH THIS.YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT DOES REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY SINCE IT'S A NEW FEE.
AND WE'LL, I GUESS, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
WHEN IS THERE A DATE SET FOR APPLICATIONS TO START OR ARE YOU ALREADY ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS? NO, THERE'S NO DATE YET.
HOW WILL WE BE NOTIFIED SO YOU CAN NOTIFY PEOPLE IN OUR DISTRICT? IF ONCE THIS IS APPROVED, IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE WILL OUTLINE OUR EXACT PROCESS, APPLICATION AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE THAT WITH THE LEGISLATURE.
IF YOU COULD SHARE IT AND THEN I COULD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
JUST TO BE ON THE RECORD HERE, I AM IN FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET FOOD TRUCKS OR ANYTHING THAT COULD HELP ENHANCE.
IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, DRIVE A ICE CREAM TRUCK THROUGH A PARK AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS A KID ONCE AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I STILL GET EXCITED TO HEAR THE MUSIC AND SPEND EIGHT DOLLARS ON...
CAN YOU HUM US THE TUNE OF HOW IT GOES? YOU KNOW, I CAN'T.
I MEAN, I'D BE HAPPY TO BRING IT UP ON MY PHONE.
BUT I JUST, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE BEEN INVOLVED ON THIS AT THE TOWN LEVEL, AND IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR A LOT OF THE FOOD TRUCKS TO JUSTIFY WITHOUT A SIGNIFICANT POPULATION DENSITY LIKE A FESTIVAL.
SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN THESE SITUATIONS, YOU GET PEOPLE COMING IN, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU KNOW, THEY GET TWO OR THREE OR FOUR CUSTOMERS IN AN HOUR.
IT JUST DOESN'T JUSTIFY THEM BEING THERE UNLESS THERE'S A SPECIAL EVENT.
SO I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DETAILS.
IF YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR YEARS, AND THERE'S, I MEAN, THIS IS ABOUT AS SIMPLE OF A RESOLUTION AS I'VE EVER SEEN.
THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE LACKING AND POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, OVERLAPPING SEASONS.
YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF GETTING MORE DEFINED IDEAS ON HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE LAID OUT WOULD BE.
YOU KNOW, I'M FINE MOVING THIS FORWARD WITH THE PERMITTING AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, THE DETAILS OF THE FEE STRUCTURE MAYBE AT A DIFFERENT TIME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF GET THE DETAILS OF, BECAUSE I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, YOU KNOW, IN A LITIGIOUS SOCIETY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO HAVE VENDORS INSURANCE ON RECORD.
I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PIECE AND I SEE THAT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED.
ALL SET? ANYBODY ELSE? LEGISLATOR MILLS? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE MONEY ON A FOOD TRUCK, YOU HAVE TO HAVE VOLUME, WHICH IS THE NUMBER OF CUSTOMERS THAT MAKE IT WORK.
AND I'M JUST GOING TO REFERENCE CHESTER RIDGE PARK BECAUSE THAT'S MY HOME PARK.
I WOULD SAY BETWEEN MONDAY AND EVEN FRIDAY, SAY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, IT'S REALLY PRETTY PASSIVE UP THERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF, THERE'S WALKERS, THERE'S JOGGERS, SIGHTSEEING, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE'S NOT A TREMENDOUS VOLUME OF WHAT I WOULD CALL A FOOD CUSTOMER UP THERE.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE WE'RE FIGHTING WITH MR. FLANAGAN OVER...
OPENING UP THE FOOD CONCESSION UP THERE.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS SENDS A WRONG MESSAGE ON THAT PARTICULAR PARK, BRINGING IN FOOD TRUCKS TO ACCOMMODATE RESIDENTS.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD ONLY BE APPLICABLE WITH AN EVENT OF SOME TYPE WHERE ENOUGH VOLUME WOULD COME INTO THE PARK FOR THE EVENT TO MAKE IT PROFITABLE FOR A FOOD TRUCK TO BE UP THERE, SEVERAL FOOD TRUCKS.
THERE'S JUST SO MANY QUESTIONS HERE THAT SEEM TO BE HANGING OUT THERE.
AND I WOULD ALSO ASK YOU, IS IT NICOLE? YES.
WHERE IS THE COMMISSIONER TODAY? WHY IS HE NOT HERE? HE HAS ANOTHER SCHEDULED MEETING.
I'M THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, AND I OVERSEE THE CONCESSIONS PROCESS.
YOU'RE CERTAINLY VERY COMPETENT.
BUT THE COMMISSIONER, I MEAN...
HE'S COME UP WITH SOME MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION I THINK THAT'S THAT WE WOULD NEED SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR INPUT.
NICOLE THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS TO OUR ATTENTION TODAY.
QUESTION I HAVE IS WE HAD 134 MILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS IN OUR BUDGET.
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I THINK IT'S IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE THESE FOOD TRUCKS COME TO OUR COUNTY PARKS.TO BE ABLE TO FREELY USE AS TAXPAYERS.
MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE OPEN AND FAIR PROCESS FOR ANY FOOD TRUCK TO APPLY.
THEY ARE PAYING FOR A HEALTH DEPARTMENT FEE ANNUALLY.
DO YOU SEE THAT WE NEED TO CHARGE A FEE FOR THESE TRUCKS TO BE IN OUR COUNTY PARKS? COUNTY PROPERTIES? I THINK IT HELPS STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.
I THINK WE COULD GET OVERWHELMED WITH APPLICATIONS IF THERE WASN'T A FEE ATTACHED, BUT THAT IS WHY WE TRIED TO KEEP THE FEES REALLY REASONABLE BECAUSE WE CAN'T GUARANTEE ATTENDANCE ON ANY GIVEN DAY AT A PARK.
DO YOU THINK MAYBE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT MAY, I'M JUST THROWING AN IDEA OUT THERE, HAVE A MINIMAL ADDITIONAL FEE IF THEY CHOOSE TO GO ON A COUNTY PROPERTY THEY CAN PAY, I'M JUST THROWING A NUMBER, $25 ADDITIONAL IN THEIR ANNUAL APPLICATION ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FEE, SO THAT OPENS THEM UP TO ACCESS.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD ALLOW.
ON THE RECORD, I CAN'T SEE CHARGING FEES WHEN THE COUNTY ALREADY HAS A SURPLUS, AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO UTILIZE A FOOD TRUCK, ACCESSIBILITY TO THE COUNTY PROPERTIES, PARKS, GOLF COURSES, WHATEVER IS INCLUSIVE.
FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PATRONIZE THESE SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO THAT'S WHERE I STAND ON THIS, AND I APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN HERE, BUT IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A FEE ATTACHED, I'M GOING TO BE A NO.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NICOLE, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE IS THE WAY THAT THE PARK SYSTEM IS PROBABLY GOING TO GO IN THE FUTURE.
EVERYBODY LOVES FOOD TRUCKS, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR DOING THAT.
I'VE GONE TO MANY EVENTS WITH MY FAMILY WHERE FOOD TRUCKS AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE OLD BUSINESS MODEL OF HAVING KITCHENS WITHIN PARKS PROBABLY NOT FEASIBLE AND THIS MIGHT EXPAND IT SO I COMMEND YOU ON THAT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS HERE SO I'M JUST GOING TO TABLE THIS FOR NOW AS MY AUTHORITY SURE, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD HERE ALL RIGHT ITEM 11 JOE FIEGEL, YOU ARE BACK ON BOARD.
WHAT DO WE GOT, JOE? HOPEFULLY THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LOUDER.
WHAT WE'RE QUESTIONING HERE IS APPROVAL TO CLOSE OUT A CONTRACT WITH HULL INDUSTRIAL FOR THE SOUTH TOWN'S INFLUENCE SCREEN REPLACEMENT PROJECT.
THIS IS SOME OF THE LAST ARP MONEY THAT WE HAVE FINALIZED THROUGH THE ALLOCATION THAT WE HAD.
UM, REQUESTING A CLOSEOUT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED.
UM, WE HAVE A DECREASE OF, ALMOST $44,000 IN THE TOTAL AMOUNT.
UM, AND WE WANT TO JUST WRAP UP THE CONTRACT SO WE CAN PROCEED AHEAD.
ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION BY ALYSSA MILL, SECOND BY DAR.
ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER BONNIE, THIS IS YOURS.
I'M HERE REGARDING CONFIRMATION OF FIVE...
I'M HERE REGARDING CONFIRMATION OF FIVE APPOINTEES TO THE ERIE COUNTY ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT COUNCIL.
THEY'RE ALL REAPPOINTMENTS, SO THIS IS THEIR SECOND TERM.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CANDIDATES.
THEY'RE ALL VERY ACTIVE, THE EMC, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE THEIR PARTICIPATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? I GOT A MOTION BY GILMORE, SECOND BY MILLS.
ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE MORE HERE.
JOE, YOU'RE A POPULAR GUY IN MY OPINION.
WE HAD A RESIGNATION ON THE SIOUX DISTRICT BOARD OF MANAGERS.
THE VILLAGE OF EAST AURORA HAD RECOMMENDED TRUSTEE BOJANOWSKI TO FILL THAT VACANCY AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION SUBSTITUTE OR CONFIRMATION.
ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION BY LEGISLATOR MILLS, SECOND BY GILMORE.
ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
I HAVE A ONE BY MILLS, SECOND BY TADAR.
ALL IN FAVOR? WE ARE ADJOURNED.
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I CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, MEETING NUMBER SEVEN.
ITEMS ONE THROUGH SEVEN ARE TABLED UNDER MY AUTHORITY.
CHAIR, ITEM TEN IS RECEIVED AND FILED.
ITEMS EIGHT AND NINE ARE ACTION.
8 COMMUNICATION 9E-16 APPOINTMENT TO THE ERIE COUNTY HEALTH EQUITY ADVISORY BOARD.
WE HAVE DIRECTOR WOLFORD HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
I AM HERE TO PRESENT THE APPOINTEES FOR THE ERIE COUNTY HEALTH EQUITY ADVISORY BOARD FOR YOUR APPROVAL.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM 9, COMMUNICATION 9E-17, APPOINTMENTS TO THE COMMISSION ON THE STATUS OF WOMEN.
WE HAVE COMMISSIONER KING HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
I'M HERE SEEKING APPROVAL FOR TWO CANDIDATES TO SERVE ON THE ADVISORY BOARD.
ON THE QUESTION? MOTION TO APPROVE? SECOND, LESLIE GAVARNESE.
CAN WE GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND.
[FINANCE & MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE]
WELCOME TO MEETING NUMBER SEVEN OF THE FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.ITEMS 1 THROUGH 6 WILL BE TABLED ON PAGE 1.
ITEMS 7 THROUGH 13 ARE ALSO TABLED ON PAGE 2.
PAGE 3, ITEMS 14 THROUGH 21 WILL BE TABLED.
ON PAGE 4, ITEMS 22, 23, AND 24 WILL BE TABLED.
ITEM 25 IS RECEIVED AND FILED.
ITEM 27 IS RECEIVED AND FILED.
ITEM 29 IS RECEIVED AND FILED.
ITEM 30 IS RECEIVED AND FILED.
ITEM 31 IS AN ACTIONABLE ITEM FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE JASON HURLEY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DIVISION OF PURCHASE PERSONNEL CHANGE.
JASON, HOW ARE YOU TODAY? DOING WELL.
HOW ARE YOU? THANKS FOR HAVING US MEETING JUST FOR ME, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF PERSONNEL ADJUSTMENT RESO FOR THE DIVISION OF PURCHASING.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE DIRECTOR COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
SHE HAS A SPEAKING ENGAGEMENT WITH MWBE VENDORS OUT AT UB.
BUT THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW SHE CONSULTED OUR DEPARTMENT WITH THAT PROVIDES A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY FOR HER DAILY OPERATIONS.
THEY ARE LOOKING TO UPGRADE FROM A FULL-TIME ACCOUNT CLERK POSITION, WHICH IS A JOB GROUP FOUR, TO A JOB GROUP FIVE CONTRACT CONTROL CLERK.
IT SEEMED LIKE WITH THE DAILY TASKS THAT WERE PROVIDED WITH THE PREVIOUS PERSON HOLDING THAT JOB, LOT OF THINGS WERE BEING DONE KIND OF OUT OF TITLE AND SO VALLEY DID APPROACH OUR DEPARTMENT ABOUT WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT BEST TITLE TO USE FOR DIFFERENT OPERATIONAL NEEDS SUCH AS YOU KNOW COORDINATING WITH THE BUYING TEAM CREATING DEPARTMENT REQUISITIONS ASSISTING INFORMAL AND INFORMAL BIDS AND REQUESTING DOCUMENTATION FROM VENDORS THOSE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE A ACCOUNT CLERK DO THAT IS A MORE GENERIC ADMINISTRATIVE TITLE SO IT'S A SMALL INCREASE.
IN TERMS OF THE ANNUALIZED SALARY AND THE MONEY COMING FROM THE VACANCY SAVINGS TO PAY FOR IT FOR THIS YEAR.
OKAY, BECAUSE YOU'RE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND NOT PERSONNEL.
OH, YOU'RE NOT AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ANYMORE? NO, NO, I'M IN PERSONNEL NOW.
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WE HAVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, MEETING NUMBER SEVEN.CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL? LEGISLATOR LARIGO? LEGISLATOR TODARO? PRESENT.
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QUORUM PRESENT.ITEMS 1 THROUGH 9 ARE TABLED UNDER MY AUTHORITY AS CHAIR.
ITEMS 10 THROUGH 15 ARE ACTIONABLE.
FOR ITEM 10, COMMUNICATION 7E-15 FOR THE CLERK RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE ENTRY INTO CONTRACT WITH 1093 GROUP LLC AND THIS ITEM WILL RELATE TO ITEM 15, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THAT AT THE END.
SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO ITEM 11, COMMUNICATION 9E-5, COUNTY EXECUTIVE REHABILITATION OF BOARD AND ROAD PHASE 3, CONTRACTS FOR CONSTRUCTION AND CONSTRUCTION PERIOD ENGINEER SERVICES.
WE HAVE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER HOLK IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
WE ARE REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH CATCO, CONCRETE APPLIED TECHNOLOGIES CORPORATION.
AS THEY ARE THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER FOR THE BORDEN ROAD PHASE 3 PROJECT, WHICH IS FROM SENECA CREEK TO FRENCH ROAD IN CHICHAHUAGA AND WEST SENECA.
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING TO ENTER INTO AN AMENDMENT WITH ROSEMAN ASSOCIATES, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, AND LANDSCAPE SURVEYORS FOR SOME DESIGN IMPROVEMENTS RELATED TO THE PROJECT.
BORDEN IS FAMILIAR WITH EVERYBODY.
WE FINISHED BORDEN PHASE 1. IN PHASE TWO WAS ALMOST SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE.
LAST YEAR BUT MEANS SOME PAVING THAT IS GOING TO BE PLANNED TO BE COMPLETED IN JUNE AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT YOU'LL SEE PHASE THREE STARTING.
WHAT IS A PROPOSED START DATE FOR THIS PART? SO IT WOULD BE I WOULD IMAGINE BY THE END OF JUNE SO WE HAVE TO PAVE TWO FIRST AND THEN THAT'LL BE IF THERE'S A LOT OF RAIN THAT COULD BE YOU KNOW MID-JUNE, IT COULD BE LATE JUNE.
THERE ARE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES THAT NEED TO BE ORDERED FOR PHASE THREE, BUT THEY'LL BE GETTING OUT THERE AND DOING PREP WORK, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO YOU'LL SEE CREWS OUT THERE IN JUNE AND PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT MORE ACTIVE GOING INTO JULY ONCE THOSE PRE-DRAINAGE STRUCTURES ARE ON SITE.
AND THE LENGTH OF THIS PHASE? THIS IS FROM FRENCH TO SENECA. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE AND COMPLETION? SO THIS ONE'S REALLY SIMILAR TO PHASE TWO WAS.
WE ANTICIPATE BEING SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETE BEFORE THE WINTER.
AND BY SUBSTANTIAL COMPLETION, THAT WOULD HAVE THEM COMING BACK, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPRING, DOING TURF REESTABLISHMENT, CLEANUP, MAYBE PERMANENT STRIPING.
THAT'S ALL GOING TO BE WEATHER DEPENDENT ON THE TIMELINE OF THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURES ARRIVING ALSO.
QUESTIONS? WANT US TO APPROVE? MR. ZERZANO, SECOND.
MR. DEVINO, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.
ITEM 12, COMMUNICATION 9E-6, COUNTY EXECUTIVE ENVIRONMENTAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE'S ENTERPRISE GIS SYSTEM UPGRADING AND RESTRUCTURING.
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER HOLT, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
THIS IS A REQUEST FOR FUNDING FOR SOME RESTRUCTURING SERVICES THROUGH ESRI.
ENVIRONMENTAL SYSTEMS RESEARCH INSTITUTE WHICH REALLY IS OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT WITH OUR GIS SYSTEMS WE RELY ON THESE GIS SYSTEMS YOU KNOW DURING EMERGENCY SITUATIONS BUT ALSO DO TO DO TRACKING FOR MANY THINGS THAT ARE DEALT WITH IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS WE'RE SEEING AN INCREASE OF INFORMATION GATHERING THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED AS IT RELATES TO SALT USAGE YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS LIKE ROAD SWEEPING SO WE RELY ON OUR GIS SYSTEM FOR THAT.
SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD HAVE BEEN RELATED TO THE FACT THAT WE SHARE SERVER WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
THIS WORK IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE OUR OWN SERVER.
WE WILL HAVE LESS FAILURES SHUTDOWNS OF THIS OPERATING SYSTEM BY INVESTING IN THESE UPGRADES.
I KNOW THIS IS A WE HAD THE STUDY THAT HAPPENED IN 2025 OR THE EVALUATION THAT HAPPENED I'M SORRY FOR THE NECESSITY OF THIS UPGRADE.
I JUST WANT TO IDENTIFY THE FUNDING SOURCE.
WE DO HAVE APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR IT BUDGETED ALREADY, CORRECT? YES.
AND THIS IS JUST A ONE-TIME, YOU KNOW, THIS IS FOR THE UPGRADES FOR THIS YEAR.
IT DOESN'T MEAN, LIKE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE SAME THING NEXT YEAR.
WE'VE ALREADY IDENTIFIED FOR LAST YEAR FOR UPGRADES GOING FORWARD.
JUST THINKING ABOUT OTHER ISSUES WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST WITH, LIKE, SOFTWARE UPGRADES AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS THERE GOING TO BE TRAINING INVOLVED IN THIS UPGRADE, OR IS IT REQUIRED? JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S LIKE IMPLEMENTED PROPERLY.
SO THIS IS, WE HAVE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE POSITIONS IN OUR DEPARTMENT THAT WORK DIRECTLY WITH ESRI AND ALL OF OUR TECHNOLOGY PARTNERS.
THE TRAINING IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND HOW THEY USE IT, THAT'S THE STUFF THAT THEY ALREADY KNOW AS FAR AS DATA ENTRY, WHAT NEEDS TO BE TRACKED.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY UPDATING OUR INVENTORY OF EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN USE WITH THESE FUNCTIONS, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCREASED DEMAND
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ON OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO TRACK.MR. SENATOR TODARO, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED, MOTION CARRIED.
WE HAVE ITEM 14, COMMUNICATION 9E-8, COUNTY EXECUTIVE PILOT AGREEMENT FOR ST.
PAUL'S APARTMENTS 2, TOWN OF EVANS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
ERIE COUNTY ON-CALL CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AS ADVISOR.
WE HAVE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SUHAKI IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.
PLEASE, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR.
I'M HERE BEFORE THIS HONORABLE BODY REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CAMPUS CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT GROUP FOR AN ON-CALL CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AS ADVISOR SERVICES.
THESE SERVICES WILL BE USED ON AN ON-CALL BASIS OR ON AN AS-NEEDED BASIS TO PROVIDE VARIOUS SERVICES SUCH AS COST ESTIMATING.
COORDINATION SERVICES, CONSTRUCTABILITY REVIEW, MULTI-PHASE PROJECT PLANNING, AND QUALITY CONTROL TO PROJECTS THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO, ACTING AS AN OWNER'S REPRESENTATIVE WHEN NEEDED.
I'M REQUESTING TO ENTER INTO A THREE-YEAR TERM AGREEMENT WITH TWO OPTIONAL YEARS FOR RENEWAL AND TO ASSIGN $250,000 TOWARDS THIS AGREEMENT.
OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, ADMINISTRATOR VIDAL? IS THIS LIKE AN HOURLY THING, OR IS IT A FULL-TIME PERSON DEDICATED TO IT? IT'S AN HOURLY THING.
WE HAVE RATES FOR DIFFERENT SERVICES THAT WE'D ASK OF THEM, ESTIMATING OR PROJECT MANAGEMENT.
I ACTUALLY HAVE THE SCHEDULES IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THEM.
IS IT REPLACING DUTIES THAT PEOPLE WERE DOING IN-HOUSE, OR IS IT JUST CONSOLIDATING THINGS YOU'VE BEEN DOING ON AN AD HOC BASIS? MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH.
IT'S SUPPLEMENTING OUR SERVICES WHEN WE'RE STRETCHED THIN.
IT'S PROVIDING SOME SERVICES WE DON'T HAVE IN-HOUSE.
A BIG USE OF IT, IN MY OPINION, ALSO IS KEEPING SOME OF THESE DESIGN CONSULTANTS HONEST.
YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMEONE TO ACT ON OUR BEHALF AT A MUCH LOWER RATE.
AND, YOU KNOW, ACT AS, LIKE I SAID, AS AN OWNER'S REP IN SOME SITUATION.
AND THIS IS FOR THE LARGER PROJECTS THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE'RE USING THEM AT BOTANICAL GARDENS ON THE EXPANSION PROJECT.
IT CONSISTS WITH A 25 DELAWARE FACADE, LIKE THINGS THAT ARE HIGH IMPORTANCE, LARGER SCALE.
AND THIS WOULD, PART OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS LIKE ANALYZING SOME THINGS, A CHANGE ORDER, NOT A CHANGE ORDER, PART OF THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT.
SO DO YOU THINK THAT IT WILL END UP SAVING THE COUNTY MONEY? ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THEY'VE PROVED THEIR VALUE.
PREVIOUS PROJECTS WE'VE USED ON COLLEGE.
ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE? SENATOR VIDAL SECOND? SENATOR SANDARO ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.
NOW WE HAVE ITEM 14 COMMUNICATION 9E-8 COUNTY EXECUTIVE PILOT AGREEMENT FOR ST.
PAUL'S APARTMENTS, TOWN OF EVANS AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
WE HAVE COMMISSIONER CASTLE AND PAUL DEERLAND.
PAUL DEERLAND IS GOING TO SPEAK ON IT.
WE'RE SEEKING APPROVAL OF THE LEGISLATURE TODAY FOR A PILOT AGREEMENT FOR A MULTIFAMILY AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT IN THE TOWN OF EVANS.
THE PROJECT INVOLVES A NEW CONSTRUCTION OF A 52-UNIT AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEX FOR SENIOR CITIZENS AT 930 LAKE STREET IN THE TOWN OF EVANS.
THE PROJECT WILL INCLUDE 48 ONE-BEDROOM UNITS AND FOUR TWO-BEDROOM UNITS.
ALL OF THEM BEING AFFORDABLE WITH MORE THAN 60% OF THE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, AND THE PROJECT WILL BE AFFORDABLE FOR HOUSEHOLDS WHO ARE AT OR BELOW 50% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
THE PROJECT IS BEING DEVELOPED BY ST.
PAUL'S APARTMENTS II HOUSING DEVELOPMENT FUND CORPORATION AND ST.
TOTAL PROJECT COST IS $25,550,000.
TOWN OF EVANS APPROVED THIS PILOT EXTENSION UNANIMOUSLY ON MAY 6, 2026.
THIS IS A STANDARD 15-YEAR PILOT AGREEMENT CONSISTENT WITH ERIE COUNTY'S APPROVED PILOT POLICY.
ONE MORE QUESTION? I JUST DID A QUICK LOOK AT, BECAUSE I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE LIKE A CHURCH OR SOME SORT OF NON-PROFIT.
IS IT A 501C3 THAT'S DEVELOPING OR IS IT JUST A DEVELOPER? WELL, IT'S JUST A DEVELOPER, BUT THEY BECOME A HOUSING FUND DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION AND AN LLC.
THIS IS THE BULK OF THE MONEY THEY'RE GETTING IS FROM NEW YORK STATE TAX CREDITS, LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS.
SO THAT'S THE DESIGNATION THAT THEY HAD TO APPLY FOR BEFORE APPLYING TO NEW YORK STATE.
SO THE TAX BREAK WOULD HAPPEN FOR 15 YEARS? IT'S ACTUALLY $30,000 AS PART OF THE NEW YORK STATE TAX CREDIT.
OUR PILOT IS FOR 15 YEARS, AND THEY HAVE TO COME IN FOR AN EXTENSION AFTER 15 YEARS.
SO WE DO EXPECT THEM TO COME BACK FOR AN EXTENSION FOR ANOTHER 15 YEARS?
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YES, CORRECT.IT'S A LONG TIME, BUT IF THE TOWN AGREED WITH IT AND WANTS THIS THERE, IT'S HARD TO DISAGREE WITH.
I JUST DON'T LIKE SEEING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE THESE TAXES DON'T GET REDISTRIBUTED TO OTHER RESIDENTS.
I MEAN ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT IS THE PILOT HAS TO BE STRUCTURED THIS WAY IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE APPLICATION OF NEW YORK STATE TO GET THE TAX CREDITS BECAUSE THE INVESTORS WANT TO ENSURE THAT THEY KNOW EXACTLY BECAUSE THERE'S A 3% ESCALATOR SO THEY KNOW WHAT THE AMOUNT IS IN YEAR ONE AND SO THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE AND SEE THAT TABLE.
IT'S CRITICAL THEY HAVE THAT BEFORE THEY CAN CLOSE ON THE FUNDING.
OKAY, SO IF WE WEREN'T TO APPROVE THIS, IT WOULD GET NEXT.
ANY QUESTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE.
MS. HEDGERDARO, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIED.
NOW WE'RE ON TO ITEM 15, COMMUNICATION 90-19.
COUNTY CLERK, REQUEST TO DISCHARGE AND VOTE ON COMMUNICATION 70-15, PROPOSED NORTH TOWNS AUTO BUREAU LEASE.
DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE CLERK'S OFFICE? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ASK FOR APPROVAL FOR COM 90-19, WHICH IS THE AMENDED RESOLUTION FOR THE NORTH TOWNS AUTO BUREAU, THAT IT BE DISCHARGED FROM COMMITTEE AND PUT TO A VOTE NEXT WEEK.
A COUPLE UPDATES FROM OUR MEETING LAST WEEK.
WE DID REACH OUT TO THE LAW DEPARTMENT AT THE CHAIR'S REQUEST TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DISCLOSE TO THE LEGISLATURE AS FAR AS THE PROPOSALS AND THE SCORE SHEETS.
THEY DID RESPOND TO US TIMELY.
UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION LAW, BECAUSE CERTAIN MATERIALS COULD AFFECT NEGOTIATIONS, BECAUSE THERE HASN'T BEEN A CONTRACT APPROVED YET, THE LAW DEPARTMENT ADVISED THAT WE COULD REQUEST IT BE KEPT CONFIDENTIAL.
THOSE MATERIALS WERE THEN HAND-DELIVERED ON FRIDAY UP TO THE LEGISLATURE.
THEY WERE THE TWO PROPOSALS WE RECEIVED, AS WELL AS A SUMMARY OF THE SCORE SHEET AS REQUESTED.
ONE OTHER UPDATE, THERE WAS A MENTION ABOUT PARKING POTENTIALLY BEING AN ISSUE AT THE SITE.
WE DID CHECK THE TOWN OF TONAWANDA ZONING CODE.
THERE IS ENOUGH PARKING TO SATISFY THAT CODE, SO WE BELIEVE THAT IS A NON-ISSUE AS WELL.
SO WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF PERMIT GUIDANCE.
THE HONORABLE BODY HAS THE PROPOSALS IF THEY WANTED TO LOOK AT THEM.
THE PARKING ISSUE IS A NON-ISSUE, AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS NOW AT OUR FOURTH GO-AROUND ON THIS RESOLUTION.
ANY QUESTIONS? IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE SHERIDAN LOCATION? YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, LEGISLATOR.
I KNOW WE HAD SOME BACK AND FORTH ON WHETHER WE NEEDED TO DO THE RFP PROCESS OR NOT, BUT BECAUSE WE DID DO THE PROCESS, THE CLERK'S OFFICE ISN'T A HOLDING PATTERN MOVING FORWARD AT ALL ON GOING FORWARD.
IF THE SONAR BODY APPROVES IT, GREAT, WE HAVE THE SITE.
THERE DOES NEED TO BE A VOTE THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE AGAINST IT.
WE WOULD NEED TO THEN DECIDE ARE WE GOING TO ISSUE ANOTHER RFP OR, AS IT'S BEEN SUGGESTED, REACH OUT TO REALTORS IN THE NORTH TOWNS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANOTHER SUITABLE LOCATION.
AGAIN, ALL OF THAT, THOUGH, IS GOING TO TAKE MORE TIME.
WE DID GET THAT EXTENSION AT THE CURRENT LOCATION.
THAT'S UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
IF THIS IS NOT APPROVED, IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY THAT THAT LOCATION WILL HAVE TO BE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MOVE IN TIME.
EVEN NOW, IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THIS ONE APPROVED, WE HAVE TO GET THE CONTRACT FINALIZED, IT HAS TO GET APPROVED BY THE LAW DEPARTMENT, IT HAS TO BE SIGNED BY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, SO THERE'S TWO MORE BACKSTOPS TO GO THROUGH AFTER THE LEGISLATURE.
WE'LL MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, THOUGH, BUT THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN, SHUTTING DOWN AN AUTO BUREAU.
IT COULD AFFECT BUDGETS GOING FORWARD, AS WELL AS THE NORTH TOWNS CONSTITUENTS, OF COURSE.
SO THERE ARE CONCERNS IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD, BUT WE DO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD EITHER WAY ON THIS.
MR. DEVANO? WITH THE LOOKING INTO THE PARKING ISSUE AT THE AT THE PROPOSED NEW LOCATION IS IT IS IT THEN DOES THAT SHOW THAT THERE WAS SUFFICIENT PARKING AT THE CURRENT LOCATION? I MEAN WOULDN'T THERE BE ABOUT THIS AT LEAST THE SAME NUMBER OF CARS I MEAN FROM A VISUAL PLACE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A LOT MORE PARKING AT THE EXISTING LOCATION? YEAH I LOOKED INTO THE
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TONAWANDA ZONING CODE FOR THE NEW LOCATION AGAIN THE CURRENT LOCATION DID NOT SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO THE RFP.SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CONSIDER ANYTHING NOW BECAUSE WE ARE STILL LOCKED IN THAT RFP PROCESS EVEN IF THEY SAID OH WE HAVE SOMETHING NOW THAT GOES AGAINST THE OLD RFP PROCESS WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD ON LIKE I SAID GETTING A VOTE ON THAT ZONING CODE REQUIRES THREE SPACES PER 1,000 FEET OR ONE SPACE PER EMPLOYEE THE PROPOSED SITE HAS A TOTAL OF 55 PARKING SPACES ASSUMING THE DMV, FOR EXAMPLE, IT WOULD HAVE 30 EMPLOYEES, 30 PARKING SPACES WOULD BE REQUIRED.
WORST CASE SCENARIO, IF WE WERE LEASING THE ENTIRE BUILDING, 14,805 SQUARE FEET, IT WOULD REQUIRE 45 SPACES.
SO EITHER WAY, THERE IS ENOUGH TO MEET THE CODE.
BUT YOU'RE ONLY JUST DOING THAT BASED ON THE EMPLOYEES, WHEREAS THE CURRENT SPACE HAS ENOUGH FOR THE CUSTOMERS AND THE EMPLOYEES, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT'S A LOT BIGGER OF A PARKING LOT.
I KNOW OTHER PLACES ARE THERE, BUT I'VE SEEN THERE THAT THERE'S, YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE LIKE 17 PARKING SPACES FOR CUSTOMERS? YOU SAID THERE'S 55 PARKING SPACES AND YOU NEED 38 FOR EMPLOYEES OR SOMETHING, IS THAT RIGHT? ONE SPACE PER EMPLOYEE DURING THE MAXIMUM SHIFT FOR AN OFFICE USE, BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT RULES IF IT'S CONSIDERED OFFICE USE, OR IF IT'S A RETAIL SHOP SPACE, THEN IT'S THREE SPACES PER 01,000 FEET.
SO BY EITHER METRIC, THERE IS ENOUGH FOR THE CODE, AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN.
WELL, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS ENOUGH.
I DON'T THINK THE CONCERN RAISED WAS WHETHER THERE WAS ENOUGH FOR THE CODE.
OF JUST THE PEOPLE WORKING THERE IT'S ABOUT WHETHER PAYING THREE TIMES OR WHATEVER THE RATE THAT THERE'LL BE ENOUGH PARKING FOR TAXPAYERS THAT ARE YOU KNOW PEOPLE USING IT TO TO GO SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S ONLY 17 SPACES FOR CUSTOMERS DURING MAXIMUM TIME IF THE EMPLOYEES EACH BRING THEIR OWN CAR THEN THERE'S 55 SPACES YOU SAID AND THERE'S 38 FOR EMPLOYEES, SO THERE WILL ONLY BE 17 FOR CUSTOMERS.
THAT WAS A HYPOTHETICAL IF IT WAS 30 EMPLOYEES.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE EXACT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES IS GOING TO BE, BUT JUST AS GIVING AN EXAMPLE, IF IT WAS 30 EMPLOYEES, WE WOULD NEED MINIMUM 30 PARKING SPOTS TO SATISFY THE CODE.
SO, BUT, AGAIN, I DON'T THINK THE ISSUE WAS SATISFYING THE CODE.
IT WAS ABOUT WHETHER THERE'S SUFFICIENT PARKING TO PAY, TO JUSTIFY PAYING THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT.
THAT IS IT ENOUGH? IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT'S ENOUGH.
YOU MUST HAVE, IT CAN'T BE JUST ONE CUSTOMER FOR EVERY.
TO EMPLOYEES, THERE'S GOT TO BE, I MEAN, I'VE SEEN IT WHERE THERE'S WAY MORE THAN 17 PEOPLE IN THERE.
THAT'S THE OTHER THING WHY THERE'S GOING TO BE THIS FIRST DRIVE-THRU THAT'S GOING TO HOPEFULLY REDUCE THE NEED FOR PEOPLE COMING IN FOR SMALLER TRANSACTIONS.
BUT THEY SAID YOU CAN ONLY USE THAT ONE FOR DROPPING OFF PLATES AND SPLITS OR SOMETHING.
MOST YOU'LL HAVE TO COME IN, RIGHT? I'M JUST LIKE, DO YOU, LIKE, LOOKING AT IT, NOW THAT YOU'VE LOOKED INTO THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, DOESN'T THAT CHANGE YOUR EVALUATION OF WHETHER THIS IS A GOOD SPOT FOR? A NORTH TOWN LOCATION THAT ONLY WILL HAVE 17 SPOTS IN THE PARKING LOT THAT WE'RE PAYING ALL THIS MONEY FOR FOR THE, LIKE, THE CUSTOMERS? NOT AT ALL.
THE SELECTION COMMITTEE MADE THEIR DETERMINATION.
THE BIGGEST PRIMARY THING WAS THE LOCATION.
AGAIN, WE ONLY HAD TWO PROPOSALS TO GO OFF OF FOR WHO SUBMITTED.
SORRY? (INAUDIBLE) NO REQUIREMENT FOR YOU TO ACCEPT ANY OF THOSE PROPOSALS? NO, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT.
YOU CAN ALWAYS START OVER, BUT OF THE TWO, THE COMMITTEE IS ENTITLED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
PRIMARY THING, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S A QUALITATIVE ANALYSIS, WE LOOKED AT THE LOCATION.
WE KNEW WE HAD TO LEAVE THE CURRENT SITE ANYWAY BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL WAS NOT RECEIVED.
WHAT ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS? AREN'T THEY GOING TO BE UPSET THAT...
HOW MANY CUSTOMERS DO YOU USUALLY GET AT THE MAXIMUM TIMES? HOW MANY CUSTOMERS WILL BE IN THERE? THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER QUESTION FOR OUR DMV DEPUTY CLERK, MADONNA BISHOP.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS WITH ME.
WOULD IT BE LIKE 100? BECAUSE IF ALL THE STREETS ARE RIGHT AROUND THERE, THEN THAT'S WHERE THE PARKING IS EXPECTED FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON THOSE CITY STREETS.
THAT'S NOT WHERE THE PARKING IS GOING TO BE EXPECTED.
AND THAT LOCATION, AT LEAST FROM THE COMMITTEE, IN MY OPINION, IS MORE EASIER TO ACCESS THAN THE CURRENT LOCATION, GIVEN THAT CORNER THAT IT'S ON BETWEEN THE NIAGARA FALLS BOULEVARD, SHERIDAN, I GET ALL THOSE ROADS INTERSECTING.
THAT IS A DIFFICULT TRIANGLE TO ACCESS THERE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS.
THIS ONE, JUST ON THE 1ST STREET, EASIER TO TURN INTO.
AND THERE WILL BE A DRIVE-THRU FOR QUICKER TRANSACTIONS.
THE COMMITTEE DETERMINED THAT WAS THE BETTER LOCATION FROM THE OTHER PROPOSAL THAT WAS
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RECEIVED FOR THE OTHER PLAZA, AND THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR A VOTE ON TODAY.YEAH, I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S ENOUGH.
I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S 100% THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING.
IF THE, LIKE IF THE PLACE THERE IS NOW, I KNOW, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT BECAUSE I GO TO DIFFERENT PLACES IN THERE, BUT IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN A...
YOU KNOW, GETTING IN AND OUT ON EGGERT, IT'S, BUT THIS, THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE PARKING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT IN THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT PRICE, SEEMS LIKE IT'S, IT'S, WE'LL MAKE A BETTER LOCATION MAYBE, LIKE, BECAUSE IT'LL BE NEWER AND IT'LL BE BRAND NEW, MAYBE CONSTRUCTION FOR THE EMPLOYEES, BUT THE PURPOSE OF IT IS TO SERVICE THE CUSTOMERS.
AND IF THERE'S NO PARKING FOR THE CUSTOMERS, THEN I DON'T THINK PEOPLE ARE GOING TO COME.
WILL, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES ARE THERE AT THE CURRENT LOCATION? (INAUDIBLE) BECAUSE THEY'RE SAYING IF THERE'S 55 SPOTS, I'M JUST WONDERING, TO A LEGISLATOR VINYL'S POINT, WE DON'T HAVE A ROUGH IDEA HOW MANY WERE THERE? OKAY, SO THAT WOULD LEAVE YOU, EVEN ON THE HIGH END, 20, THAT WOULD LEAVE YOU WITH 35 PARKING SPOTS.
RIGHT? I DON'T WANT TO ANSWER FOR THE CLERK'S OFFICE, BUT IN THE LETTER IT DOES SAY THAT CURRENTLY YOU HAVE 14 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AT THIS LOCATION AND 3 PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.
SO THAT WAS EXACTLY THE QUESTION I WAS GOING TO ASK.
SO WE HAVE 14 FULL-TIME, 3 PART-TIME.
I IMAGINE THE 3 MIGHT NOT BE THERE ALL AT THE SAME TIME SINCE THEY'RE PART-TIME.
SO THAT WOULD LEAVE ALMOST 40 PARKING SPACES IF THERE WAS ABOUT 50, RIGHT? ALSO, IS THIS DMV OPEN ON THE WEEKEND AT ALL? SO FULL-TIME ALSO MEANS THAT YOUR 14 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, I IMAGINE THERE'S GOT TO BE LIKE A ROTATING SCHEDULE TO FILL IN THAT LIKE SATURDAY, SO IT DOESN'T EVEN NECESSARILY MEAN THAT ALL 14 ARE THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY? OKAY, THANK YOU.
I GUESS WE'LL STAY ON THE PARKING ISSUE.
IF YOU GO TO THE DMV, YOU GUYS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS.
AND IF YOU DO THE QUICK MATH ON YOUR WEBSITE, YOU SCHEDULE THEM EVERY 15 MINUTES APART.
IF YOU HAVE 15 EMPLOYEES, YOU GUYS SEE ROUGHLY 500 PEOPLE A DAY AT THAT LOCATION.
SO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOU'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO PARKING.
YOU WANT TO CREATE A DRIVE-THRU, I THINK IT'S A GREAT SERVICE.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A STACKING ISSUE.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DISCUSSED ANYTHING FURTHER WITH THE TOWN ABOUT STACKING.
IF CARS STACK UP INTO SHERIDAN DRIVE, YOU'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH THE STATE.
BUT I FIND IT MOST INTRIGUING THAT WHEN YOU WENT OVER, WHEN YOU WERE ANSWERING LEGISLATOR LARIGO'S QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT, I FIND IT MOST INTRIGUING THAT YOU NEVER EVER BROUGHT UP THE SCENARIO OF STAYING PUT.
SO YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, YOU'RE SPENDING CONSIDERABLE MORE MONEY, BUT YOU'VE NEVER DISCUSSED ABOUT JUST EXTENDING THE CURRENT LEASE, WHICH THEY HAVE OFFERED, AT A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER RATE.
THAT SEEMS TO BE COMPLETELY OFF THE TABLE WITH YOU GUYS.
AND I WAS WONDERING, WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO THAT? WHY IS THAT SO FAR BEYOND YOU GUYS? JUST FOR A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE RESTROOM, BECAUSE I KNOW IT PREDATES YOU, BUT IT DOESN'T PREDATE ME.
BECAUSE I WAS VERY INVOLVED WITH THAT DMV WHEN IT OPENED ON THE TOWN LEVEL.
AND IT WAS, AT THE TIME, THE REQUEST OF THE COUNTY NOT
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TO HAVE BATHROOMS, AND WE LET IT GO.BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT AN ISSUE WITH SECURITY.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT IS A REQUIREMENT, TO YOUR POINT, 100%, YOU DO NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC RESTROOMS, WHICH YOUR LOCATION DOES NOT.
THEY HAD AN ISSUE WITH SECURITY.
BUT I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU.
I KNOW IT'S SOUNDING LIKE A BROKEN RECORD HERE, BUT WE'RE IN THE TAIL END OF THE RFP PROCESS.
HYPOTHETICALLY, I DON'T AGREE ON THIS POINT, BUT...
LET'S SAY SOMEBODY FELT, OH, WHAT ABOUT SAYING PUT TO YOUR QUESTION? WE COULDN'T DO THAT NOW EVEN IF WE WANTED TO.
THE SELECTION COMMITTEE AWARDED THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE NEED THIS TO BE VOTED ON FIRST.
WE ARE STUCK IN THE PROCESS HERE.
THE SELECTION COMMITTEE MADE A DECISION TO GO BACK ON THAT NOW, IN MY OPINION, WOULD EXPOSE THE COUNTY TO LIABILITY FROM THE WINNER OF THE PRESUMPTIVE BID.
IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THE BEST VALUE FOR THE CUSTOMER, THE CUSTOMER BEING THE TAXPAYER.
AND IF THE BEST VALUE IS STAYING PUT, THAT IS YOUR OBLIGATION.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT ANY OF THEM.
AND YOU'VE CHOSEN THE MOST EXPENSIVE ANYWAYS.
SO YOU'VE ALREADY OPENED YOUR UP IF YOU WANT TO GET INTO LEGALITY.
SO YOU'VE ALREADY OPENED UP YOURSELF TO WHY YOU DID NOT TAKE THE PERSON WHO TECHNICALLY WON THE BID, THE CHEAPEST BID.
SO YOU'RE ALREADY THERE, BUT I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE STILL NOT EVEN CONSIDERING STAYING PUT.
OUR DMV DEPUTY CLERK OUTLINED THE ISSUES AT THEIR CURRENT LOCATION.
I MEAN, IF YOU PUT AS MUCH EFFORT INTO SOLVING THE PROBLEMS, THE LANDLORD SAID HE HAD ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU WEREN'T INTERESTED.
BATHROOMS, I'M SURE, COULD BE WORKED OUT.
THAT'S IF YOU WANT THEM THIS TIME.
PARKING IS OF ABUNDANCE WHERE YOU ARE.
THE MAJORITY OF THAT PLAZA IS YOU GUYS. YOU REALIZE THAT, RIGHT? THE AUTO PARK NEXT DOOR DOES NOT HAVE 500 PEOPLE SCHEDULED TO COME. THAT'S BESIDES WALK-INS. WE DIDN'T GET INTO WALK-INS BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER LINE YOU GUYS HAVE FOR WALK-INS. I WAS ONE OF THEM. THAT CLASS IS YOU.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THE AUTO PARTS NEXT DOOR.
AND I JUST DON'T SEE HOW YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK ON THAT CORNER, WHICH I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH.
THAT CORNER WAS A PROBLEM WHEN IT WAS A DRUGSTORE, WHICH PROBABLY SEES A QUARTER OF THE PEOPLE YOU SEE WITH TRAFFIC FLOW, WITH STACKING. SO IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY EFFORT PUT INTO... NEGOTIATING AN EXTENSION ON YOUR CURRENT LEASE IF THIS IS DISCHARGED AND PUT TO A VOTE AND IF IT DOESN'T PASS WE WILL REVIEW ALL OPTIONS WHY REGARDING WHY HAVEN'T YOU MADE THAT PART OF THIS PROPOSAL BECAUSE WE FOLLOWED A PROCESS THE CURRENT LANDLORD DID NOT SUBMIT A PROPOSAL CORRECT I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU DISAGREE WITH THE DECISION OF THE SELECTION COMMITTEE I ALSO APPRECIATE THERE ARE 11 LEGISLATORS, AND LET'S PUT IT TO A VOTE AND SEE IF IT PASSES.
THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN, BOTH. I STILL THINK THERE ARE SOME DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO HAVE.
THERE STILL SEEMS TO BE SOME QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO GET FIGURED OUT. SO UNDER MY AUTHORITY AS CHAIR. I'M GOING TO TABLE ITEM 10. I'M ALSO GOING TO, AS MY AUTHORITY AS CHAIR, I'M GOING TO TABLE ITEM 15. BRING IN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. MR. STURRELL, ALL IN FAVOR? ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.