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OKAY, GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. MEETING NUMBER 17 OF THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE, SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2026. CLERK, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLE.
[ ROLL CALL]
LEGISLATOR GREEN.THE INVOCATION WILL BE LED BY LEGISLATOR BARNESI. OKAY, THANK YOU. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING.
THE PLEDGE WILL BE LED BY LEGISLATOR LARIGO.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT]
THE FLOOR FOR OUR FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. UH, PLEASE, WE ASK THAT SPEAKERS KEEP THEIR COMMENTS RELATED TO ANY, UH, MATTERS INVOLVING COUNTY, THE COUNTY IN TODAY'S, UH, SESSION AGENDA. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT ALL SPEAKERS KEEP THEIR REMARKS TO 3 MINUTES LONG. THE CLERK WILL RING THE BELL WHEN THERE'S 30 SECONDS LEFT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? OKAY.OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS TODD HERIATCHI. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.
IN THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FROM THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2026, UNDER COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PEOPLE AND OTHER AGENCIES, APPEARED A LETTER ADDRESSED TO LEGISLATOR ST. JEAN TARD FROM MS. KIMBERLY MINKEL, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NFTA, REGARDING THE ONGOING CONSTRUCTION AT THE DL&W TERMINAL. IN HER LETTER TOUTING PROGRESS MADE AT THE SITE, MS. MINKEL REFERENCED LETTERS DATED NOVEMBER 26, 2025 FROM HER AGENCY'S LAWYERS TO THIS HONORABLE BODY, EXPLAINING THE NECESSITY OF TERMINATING THE CONTRACT WITH ITS LEAD DEVELOPER. THOSE LETTERS, WHICH COULD VERY WELL EXPLAIN WHY THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN DELAYED, WERE NEVER MADE PUBLIC DESPITE THE PROJECT'S USE OF PUBLIC DOLLARS. I HAD ASKED PRIVATELY THAT THESE LETTERS BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR TODAY'S AGENDA. I DID NOT WISH TO BRING ATTENTION TO SOMETHING THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AS SIMPLE AS A CLERICAL ERROR. I DID NOT WISH TO EMBARRASS ANYONE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THOSE LETTERS FROM THE NFTA REMAIN SHROUDED FROM THE PUBLIC, WHO, AS STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS PROJECT, SHOULD RECEIVE A FULL BRIEFING OF WHAT HAPPENED.
IN THIS SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, I'M NOW INSISTING PUBLICLY THAT THIS HONORABLE BODY, PERHAPS IF YOU, LEGISLATOR ST. JEAN TARD, COULD SEE TO IT, AS YOU WERE THE ONE TO FINALLY GET THE NFTA TO BREAK ITS SILENCE, INCLUDE THOSE LETTERS FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8TH. UH, TO BE CLEAR, MY EXPECTATION IS THERE WILL BE NO FURTHER DELAYS AND THAT ALL FUTURE CORRESPONDENCE FROM OTHER AGENCIES TO THE COUNTY LEGISLATOR WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD. UM, ONE LAST COMMENT ON A SEPARATE SUBJECT REGARDING, UM, THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE BUFFALO SABRES FOR SECURITY, UH, BASED ON THIS MORNING'S CONVERSATIONS. UM, THE COUNTY, THE STATE, AND THE BILLS CURRENTLY HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE IN WHICH THERE'S A 6% SURCHARGE ON ALL ITEMS PURCHASED INSIDE THE STADIUM, WHETHER IT BE THE TICKETS THEMSELVES, PARKING, CONCESSIONS, UH, ALL OF THAT, UH, TO HELP OFFSET FUTURE COSTS FOR MAINTENANCE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO LOOK AT SOMETHING SIMILAR BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE SABERS TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS FOR THE SECURITY. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, TODD. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS SHANE SEYMOUR.
THANK YOU. I WAS PRESENT DURING THE CAUCUS, AND UH, THIS IS WITH REGARDS HERE TO, I BELIEVE, WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA AS PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD FOR, UH, LOCAL LAW INTRO 7-1.
AND, UM, I THOUGHT THAT, UH, WHAT MIGHT BE RELEVANT HERE THAT EVERYONE COULD PROBABLY BENEFIT TO, UH, TO BE MADE AWARE OF IS THAT, UM, RECENTLY THERE HAVE BEEN ON THE ELECTRONIC BILLBOARDS, FOR INSTANCE, THAT, UH, THEY'VE SCHEDULED ALMOST A YEAR IN ADVANCE NOW,
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AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE BEGUN TO SELL AND MAKE TICKETS AVAILABLE FOR A CONCERT EVENT AT THE NEW HIGHMARK STADIUM.AND BEING THAT THIS IS SO LUCRATIVE, I MEAN, A YEAR IN ADVANCE SCHEDULED AND GUARANTEED FOR THE MOST PART, UH, TO ACTUALLY OCCUR, THE EVENT WILL, WITH VERY LITTLE EXCEPTION, UNDOUBTEDLY HAPPEN. UM, THEY COULD MAKE, FOR INSTANCE, AND TO WHATEVER EXTENT IT MIGHT APPLY TO WHAT WAS DURING THE CAUCUS, A CONCERN, AND WITH SMALL BUSINESS INTERESTS IN MIND, BEING THAT ARENAS HAVE SOMEWHAT MORE LIMITED CAPACITY, UM, CROWD, UH, CAPABILITIES, UH, THAT, UH, PERHAPS THEY COULD MAKE IN ADVANCE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE SEATING ARRANGEMENTS, UM, WITH CROWDS FOR SUCH OTHER TYPES OF EVENTS THAT MIGHT INCLUDE, UH, UH, MORE OF A, A REGULAR FIGURE SKATING, UM, KIND OF, UH, EVENT, UH, THAT MIGHT BE, THAT WOULD SOMEHOW ALSO INCLUDE FOR THE SPORTS IMPLICATIONS IN AS MUCH THAT FIGURE SKATING IS AN OLYMPIC EVENT, BUT YET STILL TO WHATEVER, UM, UH, MEASURE APPROPRIATE, UH, IS AN ENTERTAINMENT, UM, UH, VENUE, UM, FOR THE INTENDED PURPOSE, UH, USEFUL PURPOSE, DESIGNATED PURPOSE, AND FILING PURPOSES, AS FAR AS THAT GOES. UM, AND ALSO, THOUGH, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A LITTLE MORE WITH REGARDS TO THE SECURITY IMPLICATIONS OF WHAT HAD BEEN MENTIONED DURING THE CAUCUS. I DID HAVE A MOMENT TO SPEAK WITH MR. HARDWICK FOLLOWING THE CAUCUS, BUT SOMETHING I WAS UNABLE TO REALLY TOUCH UPON WITH REGARDS TO THE SECURITY CONCERNS IS THAT, UH, IT COULD BE MADE, UM, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE OFFICERS ACTUALLY TO HAVE LITERALLY, UM, SECURITY INTERESTS. I MEAN, MEASURABLE SECURITY, SECURITIES IN EXCHANGE, UM, FOR THE ACTUAL VENUES THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE EXPECTED TO GUARD AND PROTECT, AND THAT I THINK WOULD GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE INCENTIVE, UM, TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR OWN SALARIES, WHICH WOULD CUT COSTS AND INCREASE REVENUE POTENTIAL FOR PROFITS.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK.
OKAY, AT THIS TIME I WILL CLOSE THE FIRST PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. UH, CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA. TABLED ITEMS, THERE ARE NONE. ITEMS FOR RECONSIDERATION, THERE ARE NONE. MINUTES
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FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING, MAJORITY LEADER.MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL. WE HAVE A S- UH, BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECOND BY LEGISLATOR VINYL ON THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[ PUBLIC HEARING: October 1, 2026 at 6PM for the Purpose of Hearing Public Comment on LL Intro. 7-1 (2026)]
HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 TO HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON LOCAL LAW INTRO 7-1.[ MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS:]
MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE 1 AND CONTINUED ON THE PAGE 2. MAJORITY LEADER.OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO CONSIDER BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, THE SECOND BY LEGISLATIVE SANTINE TARD ON THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? 11 TO 0.
THE RESOLUTIONS ARE NOW BEFORE THE LEGISLATURE. UH, MAJORITY LEADER.
MOVE TO AMEND TO INCLUDE ET AL SPONSORSHIP.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION BY THE MAJORITY LEADER TO INCLUDE ET AL. WE HAVE A SECOND BY LEGISLATOR VINAL.
ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. UH, MAJORITY LEADER.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED BY THE MAJORITY LEADER. WE HAVE A SECOND BY LEGISLA- LEGISLATOR ST.
JEAN TARD. UH, ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THE MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED AS AMENDED. WE WILL NOW PAUSE FOR A PRESENTATION BY LEGISLATOR SANJEAN TARD.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. SO, I AM AFRO-LATINA. I'M SO PROUD TO BE A PUERTO RICAN WOMAN, BUT THIS MONTH IS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, AND AS THAT, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE TWO TRAILBLAZERS WHO REALLY ARE ALL ABOUT MAKING AN IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO EDUCATING ABOUT OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE. SO THE FIRST PERSON I'VE KNOWN A VERY LONG TIME, ACTUALLY ME AND HER SISTER COMPETED IN A PUERTO RICAN PAGEANT, AND YES, I WAS THE PRINCESS AND I WON.
BUT, UH, BUT IT WAS REALLY SPECIAL BECAUSE I WAS ABLE LATER ON TO WORK WITH DINORA
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BAINES, IF SHE DON'T MIND COMING UP HERE, UM, AND COME BACK AND BE ON A BOARD WITH HER. AND FROM THAT MOMENT, I KNEW THAT SHE WAS SOMEONE THAT WAS GOING TO MAKE AN IMPACT IN ERIE COUNTY. AND I WAS RIGHT. UM, SHE IS NOT ONLY, COME UP HERE, DINORA, A VERY EDUCATED LATINA WOMAN, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, SHE HAS A HEART FOR SERVICE. I TELL HER OFTEN THAT WHAT SHE DOES TRULY MAKES AN IMPACT, UM, AND SHE'S A NEW MOM, IF SO, IF YOU CAN SEE HER BABY BACK THERE, UH, AND WHAT SHE DID EVEN AFTER HAVING HER BABY, I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DID, SHE CONTINUED PUSHING FORWARD AND DOING A BIG THING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU.OFTENTIMES YOU SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO ALL THE WORK, A LOT OF THE WORK, BUT THEY NEVER GET RECOGNIZED.
THIS IS A PERSON WHO DOES ALL THE WORK, AND YOU DON'T SEE HER GETTING RECOGNIZED. SO THAT CHANGED TODAY. I RECOGNIZE YOU TODAY, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU DO. I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A MOMENT TO TALK TO EVERYONE. YEAH, A LITTLE SPEECH, THAT'S IT. GO AHEAD, DINORA.
DEFINITELY NOT PREPARED FOR THIS, UH, BUT I TRULY APPRECIATE IT. AND YES, I'VE KNOWN TAISHA FOR, UM, LEGISLATOR ST. JEAN TODD FOR A LONG TIME. UM, I JUST DO IT 'CAUSE IT'S JUST IN MY BLOOD OF MY MOM. I USED TO ALWAYS GO WITH MY MOM TO VOLUNTEER, AND, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I ENJOY BRINGING MY SON WITH ME TO THE COMMUNITY, TO ALL THE MEETINGS, AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE ENJOY DOING TO FURTHER OUR CULTURE AND FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SHE'S REALLY HUMBLED, GUYS. SHE DOES A LOT.
SO THE NEXT PERSON I'VE KNOWN SINCE I WAS MAYBE 5, 6 YEARS OLD, AND I'M 31, JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS WONDERING.
CASIMIRO RODRIGUEZ. A LOT OF YOU GUYS KNOW THAT KAZ HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A HISPANIC HERITAGE INSTITUTE. AND SOMEONE, BEFORE THIS EVEN WAS AN IDEA, KAZ WAS ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD BRING DIFFERENT LATINO LEADERSHIPS IN A ROOM. UM, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS 14, I WAS AT THIS MEETING WITH KAZ, AND THERE WAS ALL THESE DIFFERENT LEADERS THAT I, YOU KNOW, NEVER KNEW THEY WERE DOING SUCH BIG THINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, THEY WERE DEPARTMENT HEADS, THEY WERE CEOS, YOU NAME IT, THEY WERE AT THAT TABLE. AND AS A 14-YEAR-OLD, I WAS INSPIRED THE WAY HOW KAZ WOULD GET EVERYONE TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY GET THINGS DONE. SO TODAY, I WANT TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR YOUR LEGACY, THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT YOU CONTINUE DOING. UM, I KNOW THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS FARTHER ALONG BECAUSE OF YOU, SO IT'S MY HONOR TO RECOGNIZE YOU THIS MONTH. I'M GONNA LET YOU SPEAK, KAZ.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I'LL BE REMISS IF I DON'T THANK THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY AND, UH, OUR LEGISLATORS, UH, FOR THE CULTURAL FUNDING.
YOU KNOW, UH, ERIE COUNTY HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR STRONG SUPPORTERS EVER SINCE WE FORMED THIS ORGANIZATION BACK IN 2010.
WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR 16TH YEAR, AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE STRONG PARTNERSHIP IN GOVERNMENT THAT OUR COMMUNITIES ARE ABLE TO THRIVE, AND ERIE COUNTY HAS BEEN THERE, UH, EVERY STEP IN THE WAY. UH, ALSO, UH, TO BUILD OUR FIRST IN UPSTATE NEW YORK HISPANIC HERITAGE CULTURAL INSTITUTE THROUGH THE CAPITAL, UH, INVESTMENT OF THE COUNTY, UH, TO COMMUNITIES, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE ABLE TO AWARD US A MILLION DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, CONSTRUCT AND BUILD AN INSTITUTION, UH, FOR OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'D BE REMISS IF I DO NOT THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE IN THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY FOR THAT SUPPORT. YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THEME FOR THIS MONTH OF HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IS UNIDOS SOMOS MÁS. UNITED, WE ARE MORE. AND IT, AND IT TAKES, UH, LIKE I HAD MENTIONED BEFORE, THE STRONG PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN, UH, THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY, ERIE COUNTY, UH, AND ALL THE LEGISLATORS AND OUR COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND EVERYONE THAT WORKS AND VOLUNTEERS AND THE
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STAFF, UH, THAT SUPPORTS ORGANIZATIONS LIKE OURS. WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO WHAT WE DO IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT SUPPORT, THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO PICK UP THE PHONE, MAKE A CALL, AND GET THE SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED, BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY OUR COMMUNITIES THRIVE. SO ON BEHALF OF PERSONALLY AND OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I ACCEPT THIS, THE THIS RECOGNITION ON BEHALF OF OUR VOLUNTEER BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND OUR COMMUNITY.I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU, LEGISLATOR, UH, TIRED SAINT JANE AND, UM, ALL THE LEGISLATORS IN THIS LEGISLATIVE BODY.
AND I BELIEVE YOU DO HAVE BOARD MEMBERS, DINORA, THE OTHER DINORA, WHICH IS HER MOM, IS HERE. SHE'S ALWAYS AROUND.
SHE DOES A GREAT JOB. AND I DO SEE YOUR SISTER, WHO I ACTUALLY COMPETED WITH, AND SHE WAS THE QUEEN, I WAS THE PRINCESS, AND, UM, SO WE GO BACK A LONG TIME. SO THANK YOU GUYS ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO, UM, AND I HOPE EVERYONE WILL ENJOY THIS MONTH AND SUPPORT A LOT OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING THIS MONTH.
THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU, LEGISLATOR. UH, CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA,
[ LOCAL LAWS:]
LOCAL LAW INTRO 4-1 THROUGH AND INCLUDING INTRO 7-1, AS INDICATED. UH, COMMITTEE[ COMMITTEE REPORTS:]
REPORTS. REPORT NUMBER 12 FROM THE HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES COMMITTEE.WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UH, MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL BY LEGISLATOR DUPREE. WE HAVE A SECOND BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THE REPORT IS APPROVED. UH, REPORT NUMBER 11 FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, MAJORITY LEADER.
MOVE FOR ME CONSIDERATION APPROVAL.
MOTION TO, UH, SEPARATE ITEM, UH, 7 ON THE OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO SEPARATE ITEM NUMBER 7, SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE REPORT ON THE QUESTION, OR MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE REPORT. WE HAVE A SECOND BY LEGISLATOR GREEN ON THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
MOTION CARRIES. OKAY, NOW WE WILL VOTE, VOTE, UH, ON MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM, ITEM NUMBER OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 7 BY THE MAJORITY LEADER. WE HAVE A SECOND BY, UH, LEGISLATOR LARIGO ON THE QUESTION. ROLL CALL VOTE, PLEASE.
ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 7 FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT, LEGISLATOR GREEN.
EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I JUST WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR THAT THIS AGREEMENT GOES BACK TO 2022, WHEN WE FIRST STARTED RECEIVING A FLAT RATE OF 120,000 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE AT THE KEYBAKE CENTER TO KEEP RESIDENTS SAFE. THE AGREEMENT BEFORE US TODAY THAT WE'RE VOTING ON BRINGS US UP TO THE 2026 AND 2027 YEAR OF GET BEING REIMBURSED 585,000 DOLLARS, AND THE AGREEMENT ENDS WITH US BEING REIMBURSED 720,000 DOLLARS. IF WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESTORE THIS MONEY TO TAXPAYERS, I THINK WE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY TAKE IT, UM, AND NOT NEGOTIATE AGAINST OURSELVES, AND FOR THAT REASON, I'M A YES.
ST. JEAN TARD? EXPLAIN MY VOTE. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS AGREEMENT, I'VE MENTIONED THIS IN CAUCUS. OTHER AGENCIES ARE GETTING ZERO. THIS IS OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE'RE GETTING DOLLARS TO MAYBE NOT BE COMPLETELY MADE WHOLE, BUT SOMEWHAT. AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COMPTROLLER AND SEEING THAT DATA FOR THE FUTURE. WE HAVE 3 YEARS TO LOOK AT THIS, AND IF IT'S NOT WORKING, WE CAN FIX THAT. SO I AM A YES,
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AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE DATA IN 3 YEARS AND VOTING ON THAT AND SEE IF WE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.I'M VOTING NO BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT'S A PROFITABLE COMPANY, FOR PROFIT, AND THEY HAVE A DUTY, THE EXCLUSIVE DUTY TO PROVIDE SECURITY, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN POLICING, AND THEY HAVE THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SECURITY AND HAVE IN THE PAST UP UNTIL 22. AND ORIGINALLY WHEN THEY CAME, IT WAS STATED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE COVERING THE COST, WHICH HASN'T BEEN TRUE. I ASKED, UH, THREE TIMES, UH, WHAT THE COST WAS AFTER THE SHERIFF'S REPRESENTATIVE SAID HE HAD TO CALCULATE THE COST, AND HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW, WOULDN'T PROVIDE IT. NOW WE FIND OUT IT'S ONLY A THIRD.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GROUP THAT SHOULD BE PAYING IT. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO PAY IT AND SHOULD BE PAYING IT. WE CAN PAY FOR POLICING, BUT NOT SECURITY, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS, AND WHICH THEY ALONE HAVE THE DUTY.
AND ALSO I CONFIRMED WITH THE MAJORITY OR THE MINORITY, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF WHO REVIEWED THE LEASE THAT WE DON'T OWN THE BUILDING. WE OWN A PORTION OF IT, THE STEEL, BUT THAT IT'S A VARIETY OF PEOPLE. SO, AND ANY LANDLORD, ONCE IT'S RENTED OUT, DOESN'T HAVE THE DUTY TO PROVIDE SECURITY. RATHER, THEY, THE, UH, FOR-PROFIT OWNER DOES. SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M A NO.
REPORT NUMBER 12 FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, LEGISLATOR ST.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL BY LEGISLATOR ST.
JEAN TARD. WE HAVE A SECOND BY THE MAJORITY. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
THE REPORT IS APPROVED. UH, REPORT NUMBER 13 FROM THE ENERGY ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE, LEGISLATOR BARNESI.
YEAH, I MOVE TO SEPARATE ITEM NUMBER 5 AND APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE REPORT.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FROM LEGISLATOR BARNESI TO, UH, SEPARATE ITEM NUMBER 5 AND APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE REPORT. WE HAVE A SECOND BY THE MAJORITY LEADER ON THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
OKAY, THE BALANCE OF THE REPORT IS APPROVED. UH, WE'RE NOW GOING TO VOTE ON, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE.
OKAY, NOW WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 5, UH, ON THE QUESTION. UH, WE NEED A SECOND BY LEGISLATOR DUPREE.
OKAY, ON THE QUESTION. ROLL CALL VOTE.
ON THE MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 5 FROM THE ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE REPORT, LEGISLATOR GREEN.
EXPLAIN MY VOTE. UM... EVERY TIME WE HAVE SOMEBODY COME THROUGH HERE, REGARDLESS OF THE DEPARTMENT, TELLING US THAT WHEN GRANTS END, JOBS END, WE BELIEVE THEM. BUT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET SHOWED THAT WAS DIFFERENT. ORIGINALLY, THE NUMBER WAS 5, THEN 6, THEN 7 THAT GOT TRANSFERRED FROM ORIGINAL GRANTS TO FULL-TIME JOBS. WHETHER IT'S THE CONTROLLER, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT IMPENDING FINANCIAL DOOM IN THE COUNTY. WE NEED TO BE MORE RESPONSIBLE WITH, WITH OUR MONEY. WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO TAKE ON JOBS THAT EVENTUALLY JUST END UP BECOMING FULL-TIME JOBS. UM, SO UNTIL WE GET OUR, UH, FINANCIAL BELT IN ORDER, I'M GONNA BE A NO.
THANK YOU. LEGISLATOR LARIGO? NO.
TADARO? EXPLAIN MY VOTE. UH, IN COMMITTEE, I REQUESTED SOME INFORMATION.
IT IS FAILED TO COME TO MY DESK, SO I AM A NO.
THANK YOU. LEGISLATOR BRAGNASI? YES.
ST. JEAN TARD? EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I'M GOING TO BE A YES BASED BECAUSE THIS IS A 2 MILLION DOLLAR GRANT. I AGREE, WE HAVE TO BE FINANCIALLY RESPONSIBLE, BUT WE ALSO AT THIS BODY, WE APPROVE THE BUDGET. THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, HE PROPOSES, WE DISPOSE. SO BEING ABLE TO HELP AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A 2 MILLION DOLLAR GRANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR CLIMATE AND MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS HAVE SOMEWHERE TO PROPERLY DISPOSE OF THINGS, WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT. NOW, I AGREE, WE SHOULDN'T BE ADDING EXTRA JOBS, BUT THIS IS A GRANT FOR A COUPLE YEARS. NOW, WHEN WE HAVE A BUDGET AND WE SEE THOSE JOBS, WE CAN SAY NO, WE CAN CUT THAT. SO FOR US SAYING NO RIGHT NOW, TO NOT TAKE THIS SMART MONEY FOR OUR CLIMATE, I JUST SEE THAT AS BEING A MISTAKE. THANK YOU.
I'M, I'M ALSO, UH, YES, AND THE, THE ISSUES THAT WERE RAISED THAT WERE GOOD ISSUES RAISED ABOUT HAVING THE COST BE BORNE BY THE CONTRACTOR, THAT CAN BE AND LIKELY WILL BE IF IT'S TRUE THAT THEY CAN MAKE MONEY ON IT IN THE BUDGET, IN THEIR BIDDING, THAT THEY CAN BID THAT TO DO IT FOR NOTHING, TO TAKE THE MONEY FROM THE, THE THAT THEY CAN SELL THE, THE VALUABLE GASES FOR. SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M A YES.
OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 5 IS APPROVED. OKAY, LEGISLATIVE
[ LEGISLATOR RESOLUTIONS:]
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RESOLUTIONS, UH, INTRO 17-1, MAJORITY LEADER.MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL BY THE MAJORITY LEADER. WE HAVE A SECOND BY LEGISLATOR DUPREE ON THE QUESTION. ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? 11 TO 0.
THE MOTION CARRIES. THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED.
COMMUNICATIONS DISCHARGED FROM COMMITTEE. THERE ARE NONE.
[ SUSPENSION OF THE RULES:]
SUSPENSION OF THE RULES. UH, MAJORITY LEADER.I HAVE ONE SUSPENSION TODAY FROM MONSIEUR BARNESI, AMENDING A CONTRACT TO EXTEND A PROJECT, UH, COMPLETION DEBT, UH, TIMELINE.
MAJORITY LEADER? MOVE FOR MEETING CONSIDERATION APPROVAL.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL BY THE MAJORITY LEADER. WE HAVE A SECOND BY THE MINORITY LEADER.
ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[ COMMUNICATIONS FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS:]
THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED.COMMUNICATIONS FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS.
COMMUNICATION 17E-1 THROUGH AND INCLUDING 17E-4, AS INDICATED. COMMUNICATION 17E-15, MAJORITY LEADER.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL.
OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION APPROVAL FROM THE MAJORITY LEADER. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM LEGISLATOR DUPREE. ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? 11 TO 0.
THE MOTION CARRIES, THE ITEM IS APPROVED. UH,
[ COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS:]
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS, COMMUNICATION 17-D-1, AS INDICATED. COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PEOPLE AND OTHER[ COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PEOPLE AND OTHER AGENCIES:]
AGENCIES, COMMUNICATION 17M-1, THROUGH AND INCLUDING 17M-6, AS INDICATED. I WILL NOW OPEN UP[ PUBLIC COMMENT:]
THE FLOOR FOR OUR SECOND PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. UH, WE ASK THAT ALL SPEAKERS KEEP THEIR COMMENTS RELATED TO ANY MATTER INVOLVING THE COUNTY. AGAIN, KEEP IN MIND, SPEAKERS ARE ASKED TO KEEP THEIR REMARKS LIMITED TO 3 MINUTES. THE CLERK WILL RING THE BELL WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START? OKAY, OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS SHANE. HELLO, AND THANK YOU AGAIN. UH, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS HERE.UM, I HAVE HAD ACCEPTED, UH, SECTIONS OF PROPOSAL BOTH HERE IN LANCASTER, UH, I MEAN, AS FAR AS THE COUNTY IN LANCASTER, UM, AND, UH, I, I HAD INTENDED, I STILL HAVEN'T HAD THE INTENT OF FOR BUDGETS IN DECEMBER.
UH, THIS THOUGH, UM, IT HAS, HAS BECOME SOMETHING OF AN ISSUE FOR ME NOW THAT, UH, WITH, UH, WHAT IS FOR THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, RULES OF CANDIDACY AND NOMINATIONS WITH POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEES THAT, UH, I HAVE THIS, UH, THIS COMPELLING URGE THAT I, I WILL BE TRAVELING TO, UH, INDIANA HERE IN THE, THE, UH, WEEKS TO COME. AND SO, THOUGH I HOPE TO PERHAPS RETURN, UM, IN TIME PRIOR TO, UH, THE, UH, THE BUDGET PROPOSALS DUE DATE IN, UH, DECEMBER. I WOULD LIKE TO GET, UM, SOME MORE SPECIFIC CONTACT INFORMATION, UM, WITH REGARDS TO SUCH AS, IN AS MUCH THAT I MAY, UH, COMPLETE SECTIONS OF THE PROPOSAL, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN. UM, AND THERE ARE OTHER, UM, CONSIDERATIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MADE, BUT, UM, MOST SPECIFICALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF WHAT MAY BE INCLUDED, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I IS RELEVANT, UM, WITH REGARDS TO, UH, SPECIFICALLY THE CONCRE- CONGRESSIONAL PAY AMENDMENT AND UH, UH, POTENTIAL TERM LIMITS AS WHAT MIGHT BE UM, APPROPRIATE FOR GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND THE STATE LEGISLATOR, LEGISLATURE, BUT IN AS MUCH ALSO THAT, UM, FOR, UH, THE SPECIFIC UNIQUE TERM LIMITS THAT WOULD NOT BE WITH REGARDS, UM, TO ANY CONGRESSIONAL PAY AMENDMENT, BUT, UH, THAT ALSO WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, INDIVIDUAL TERMS. UM, THAT IS JUST SOMETHING, AGAIN, THAT I THOUGHT BEFORE IT COMES BEFORE ANY OF THE ERIE COUNTY, UH, BOARD, BECAUSE WHAT I'M DOING THERE IS WITH REGARDS TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THEIR DISTRICTS.
I'VE, UH, PLANNED TO INCLUDE INDIANA WITH MY ARTICLES OF INCORPORATION, THE DISTRICT THAT BEST SUITS, UM, FOR COMPENDIUM AND COMINIUM AND MEMORANDUM. UH, AND I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A TOTAL SURPRISE WHAT I MAY INCLUDE AS A RESULT OF, OF TRAVELING TO INDIANA.
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? OKAY, I WILL NOW CLOSE THE SECOND, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD.
[ ANNOUNCEMENTS:]
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ANNOUNCEMENTS. THE LEGISLATURE WILL CONDUCT, UH, COMMITTEE MEETINGS NEXT THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1ST. THE SCHEDULE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED.THE NEXT SESSION OF THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE IS SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, OCTOBER 8TH. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS?
[ MEMORIAL RESOLUTIONS:]
PLEASE RISE FOR MEMORIAL RESOLUTIONS.THANK YOU, CHAIR. I MOVE TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF CHARLES J. MINKEL, FATHER OF KIM MINKEL, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NFDA.
I'D LIKE TO CLOSE IN MEMORY OF DAN MYERS.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF DONALD DAIGLER.
SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS, LEGISLATOR. OKAY, A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THOSE WHO WENT ON TO BE WITH THE LORD. THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECOND BY LEGISLATOR ST. TARD.
ON THE QUESTION, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OPPOSED? STAND ADJOURNED. I'M CURSING Y'ALL FOR DOING THIS ALL THE TIME.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.