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[ ROLL CALL]
THANK YOU, EVERYONE, FOR YOUR PATIENCE.I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE TO ORDER.
THIS IS MEETING NUMBER 15 OF THE COUNTY LEGISLATURE JULY 20TH, 2023.
MR. CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL? CALL] ALL MEMBERS PRESENT.
THE INVOCATION TODAY WILL BE LED BY LEGISLATOR VINAL.
MARY STEWART'S CALL IT KEEP US SO LORD FROM PETTINESS.
LET US BE LARGE AND THOUGHT AND WORD AND DEED.
LET US PUT OFF FAULTFINDING AND LEAVE OFF SELF-SEEKING.
MAY WE PUT AWAY ALL PRETENSE AND MEET EACH OTHER FACE TO FACE WITHOUT SELF-PITY AND WITHOUT PREJUDICE? MAY WE NEVER BE HASTY IN JUDGMENT AND ALWAYS GENEROUS AND PLEASED.
DEAR LORD, LET US REMEMBER TO BE KIND.
[PLEDGE] THANK YOU. TABLED ITEMS. THERE ARE NONE ITEMS FOR RECONSIDERATION FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
THERE ARE NONE MINUTES FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING.
[ MINUTES OF PREVIOUS MEETING - Meeting No. 14]
MAJORITY LEADER MEYERS.THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MEETING NUMBER 14.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY. THE MEETING MINUTES ARE APPROVED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THERE ARE NONE. MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS ON PAGE ONE AND CONTINUED ON TO PAGE THREE.
[ MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS:]
MAJORITY LEADER. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO CONSIDER.
THE RESOLUTIONS MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER HAS BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.
THE MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS ARE NOW BEFORE THE BODY.
MAJORITY LEADER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO AMEND TO INCLUDE ET AL SPONSORSHIP.
ALL IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSED? THE MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS ARE NOW AMENDED.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MISCELLANEOUS RESOLUTIONS ARE APPROVED AS AMENDED.
WE NOW HAVE ONE PRESENTATION HONORING TOTES FOR BUFFALO FOUNDER AND THE CITIZEN OF THE MONTH AND LEGISLATOR GREENE WILL CONDUCT THAT PRESENTATION.
COME ON UP. [INAUDIBLE] THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR PROVIDING THE DAIS AND THE OPPORTUNITY.
FOR THOSE WHO PAID ATTENTION IN THE LAST FEW YEARS WHENEVER I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO A CITIZEN OF THE MONTH, THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT ACHIEVEMENTS, WHETHER IT'S IN THE ATHLETIC FIELD BUSINESS WORLD.
I ALWAYS LOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES BETTER.
I'VE ALWAYS BEEN INVOLVED WITH VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND VOLUNTEERED MY TIME.
THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FAMILIES, TYPICALLY TWO INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE NECESSARILY THE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FELLOW HUMANS AND THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS, WHICH IS WHY IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO ENCOURAGE THIS TYPE OF ACTIONS, AND HERE ARE A COUPLE OF WOMEN WHO TOOK CIRCUMSTANCES IN THEIR OWN LIVES AND WERE ABLE TO START A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION TO HELP INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING THROUGH LONG TERM ILLNESSES AND HOW TO COPE WITH THAT, AND THEY CAN APPLY WHAT THEY LEARN TO HELP OTHERS.
SO THEY'LL PLAY A VIDEO HERE IN A SECOND THAT KIND OF DOES A BETTER JOB EXPLAINING IT, AND THEN I'LL READ THE PROCLAMATION IF YOU COULD.
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A SERIOUS MEDICAL ILLNESS.BACK IN 2018, MY SON WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A BRAIN TUMOR, AND I CALLED COLLEEN BECAUSE I KNEW THAT SHE HAD INTIMATE AWARENESS OF HOW TO CARE FOR A CHILD WITH A CHRONIC ILLNESS.
SHE SHOWED UP AT THE HOSPITAL WITH A TOTE, AND INSIDE THE TOTE WAS A MEDICAL BINDER TO ORGANIZE THOMAS'S CARE PLAN, AND IT HAD A BLANKET FOR ME AND SLIPPERS FOR ME, KNOWING THAT I WAS GOING TO BE IN THOSE COLD WAITING ROOMS ALONG WITH THOMAS.
FAST FORWARD A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER.
MY FRIEND, HER DAUGHTER, WAS DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER.
I KNEW EXACTLY WHAT SHE NEEDED.
YOU'RE KIDDING ME. I'M MAKING ONE RIGHT NOW, AND I SAID, THIS SETS MY HEART ON FIRE.
I SAID, WE HAVE GOT TO DO THIS.
OFF IT WENT TO CREATE THE [INAUDIBLE] THINK CAREGIVERS IN GENERAL NEED MORE SUPPORT BECAUSE WHEN YOUR LOVED ONE IS DIAGNOSED WITH SOMETHING, YOUR ONLY FOCUS IS TO CARE FOR THEM AND HEAL THEM AND MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER.
WE CAN STEP IN AND WE'RE HOLDING UP THOSE CAREGIVERS.
WE'RE SAYING, HERE, TAKE THIS TAKE.
IT WAS JUST A BLESSING TO GIVE BACK AND USE THIS VEHICLE TO HEAL OUR OWN HEARTS AND ALSO GIVE BACK TO A COMMUNITY THAT WRAPPED US UP WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE SAME THINGS.
SO WHAT STARTED OUT AS JUST ONE FRIEND HELPING ANOTHER HAS TURNED IN TO AN OUTSTANDING ORGANIZATION OF HELPING PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T KNOW GET THROUGH WHAT INEVITABLY WILL BE THE MOST DIFFICULT TIMES OF THEIR LIFE.
PARTICULARLY, THEY GO BEYOND JUST CHILDREN WITH AN ILLNESS ANYBODY WITH A LONG TERM ILLNESS, BUT PARTICULARLY ALL OF US OUR PARENTS, WE CAN IMAGINE AND SYMPATHIZE WHAT ANYBODY GOES THROUGH WITH A SICK CHILD.
SO IF YOU DON'T MIND REAL QUICK, I'D LIKE TO JUST READ THE PROCLAMATION.
WHEREAS THERE CAN BE NO GREATER VIRTUE IN SOCIETY TODAY THAN THE ABILITY TO CARE FOR OTHERS AND PROVIDE RELIEF AND COMFORT TO THOSE WHO FIND THEMSELVES IN GREAT IN TIMES OF GREAT NEED, AND WHEREAS, AS THE FOUNDERS OF HOPE TOTES, CLARENCE RESIDENT COLLEEN MARCHETTA AND AMHERST RESIDENT AMY VELEZ ARE EXEMPLARS OF WHAT IT MEANS TO SHOW COMPASSION TO THEIR FELLOW MAN, AND WHEREAS, LIKE MANY WONDERFUL CAUSES AND IDEAS THAT ARE BORN OUT OF TRAGIC CIRCUMSTANCES AND SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES, THE CONCEPT OF HOPE, TOTES AND ITS GROWTH OVER THE YEARS CAME AS A RESPONSE TO SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS FACED BY COLLEEN'S SON JACKSON AND AMY'S SON THOMAS, AND WHEREAS, TO PREPARE FOR THE DIFFICULT TASK OF ORGANIZING MEDICAL RECORDS, TREATMENT REGIMENS AND OTHER OUTCOMES AND SIDE EFFECTS, AS WELL AS TRAVEL AND LODGING TO VARIOUS HOSPITALS AND TREATMENT FACILITIES, COLLEEN AND AMY, THROUGH HOPE TOTES DEVELOPED AN EASY TO USE TOTE SYSTEM FOR ORGANIZING ALL OF THESE FUNCTIONS AND WHEREAS, RECOGNIZING THAT THERE IS A GREAT NEED TO PROVIDE PERSONAL COMFORT, A HOPE TOTE ALSO INCLUDES A BLANKET SLIPPERS ITEMS SPECIFIC TO THE PATIENT OR CAREGIVER'S NEEDS.
A HOPE JOURNAL AND A PERSONALIZED LETTER FROM COLLEEN AND AMY TO COMFORT AND ENCOURAGE THE RECIPIENT OF THEIR TOTE, AND WHEREAS, THE SIXTH LEGISLATIVE SIXTH DISTRICT, ERIE COUNTY AS A WHOLE AND THE GREATER WESTERN NEW YORK COMMUNITY ARE A BETTER, KINDER AND MORE LOVING PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE OF COLLEEN AND AMY, COMMITMENT TO HOPE, TOTES AND ITS MISSION TO PROVIDE COMFORT AND LOVE FILLED WITH SUPPORT TO PATIENTS AND CAREGIVERS IN TIMES OF MEDICAL NEED.
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE PAUSES IN ITS DELIBERATIONS TO RECOGNIZE COLLEEN MARCHETTA AND AMY VELEZ, FOUNDERS OF HOPE TOTES, AS THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE'S SIXTH DISTRICT CITIZEN OF THE MONTH FOR JUNE 2023, AND TO THANK THESE OUTSTANDING WOMEN FOR THEIR EXCEPTIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR COMMUNITY.
[INAUDIBLE] WANT TO SAY REAL QUICK,
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THANK YOU EVERYONE, SO MUCH.WE'RE SMILING A LOT BECAUSE WE'RE SO EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY.
IT'S STUFF LIKE THIS THAT ENCOURAGES US TO KEEP GOING, AND THANK YOU EVERYONE, JUST FOR LISTENING TO THIS AND LETTING US SHARE ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY FEEL IS SOMETHING VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP OTHERS GOING THROUGH ANY SORT OF SERIOUS MEDICAL DIAGNOSIS, BECAUSE WE'VE NOTICED THAT WAS AN AREA THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR AND THAT NO ONE WAS STEPPING IN TO DO , AND IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE, AND I'M SURE EVERYONE HERE DOES WHO HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH SOMETHING SERIOUS, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO AN OFFICE SUPPLY STORE AND SAYING, I'M GOING TO GET ORGANIZED AND LEARN EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS.
OFTENTIMES YOU'RE JUST TAKING EVERYTHING YOU GET AND YOU'RE OVERWHELMED.
HE HAD SO MANY SPECIALISTS I HAD TO LEARN HOW TO GIVE HIM A CHEMOTHERAPY SHOT ON DAY ONE.
I REMEMBER RUNNING ALL OVER THE HOUSE LOOKING FOR THE PAPERS THAT GAVE THE DIRECTIONS BECAUSE I HAD TO HOLD MY TWO YEAR OLD DOWN AND GIVE HIM A SHOT AND THEN GET READY FOR THE AFTERMATH OF THOSE MEDICINES, AND THE LAST THING I'M THINKING ABOUT IS HOW I'M GOING TO STAY ORGANIZED OR THINK ABOUT MYSELF WHEN WE ARE RUSHING LAST MINUTE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND IT'S UNEXPECTED AND THEN WE'RE THERE FOR A WEEK.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
SO THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS THAT A PATIENT OR A CAREGIVER WILL JUST ALWAYS HAVE THIS READY.
THEY'RE GOING TO A DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT.
THEY HAVE A MEDICAL BINDER WITH A THREE HOLE PUNCH IN THERE.
SO THIS JUST MAKES IT EASY TO PUT IT IN.
HIGHLIGHTERS, PENCILS, PENS WITH ERASERS, BINDERS TO KIND OF ORGANIZE THINGS, THINGS LIKE SIDE EFFECTS FROM MEDICATIONS, INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO USE THINGS.
SO WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT, YOU CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT THOSE THINGS.
THAT'S WHAT THE HOPE JOURNAL'S FOR; IT'S A PLACE TO KEEP ALL THAT.
WE HAVE COLORING BOOKS IN HERE TO KIND OF JUST CALM YOU, WHETHER YOU'RE GETTING A CHEMOTHERAPY TREATMENT OR ANYTHING, JUST TO KIND OF BRING YOU PEACE DURING THAT TREATMENT AND WE HAVE THINGS LIKE HATS, SLIPPERS, SLIPPERS ARE A FUNNY THING BECAUSE I REMEMBER BEING IN THE HOSPITAL WITH MY SON AND I HOP IN AND OUT OF THE BED TO GET HIM THINGS HAPPENING OUT OF THE BED. HIS SNEAKERS HAD TO GO SOMEWHERE JUST TO HAVE SLIPPERS TO SCOOT AROUND THE HOSPITAL, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE THERE FOR AN ENTIRE WEEK.
VERY HELPFUL. SO JUST I THINK PEOPLE BEING GIVEN THIS GIFT.
WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK, TOO, ABOUT IT, THAT IT'S SO EASY FOR THEM TO TAKE THIS TO THEIR CHEMOTHERAPY APPOINTMENTS, TO TAKE THIS TO THEIR CHILDREN'S MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS. WE'VE HAD IVF PATIENTS, WE'VE HAD DEMENTIA PATIENTS, AND THE CAREGIVER USES THIS WHEN CARING FOR THEM.
SO WE GET LOTS OF WONDERFUL NOTES AND WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KEEP DOING THIS.
SO WE'VE DONE 800 TOTES SO FAR.
IT FEELS IT FEELS GOOD TO GIVE BACK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO THROW ANYTHING ELSE IN THERE.
YOU DID GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, AND THE LAST THING I WANT TO MENTION IS A YEAR AGO, I HAD ONE OF THE ORGANIZATIONS UP HERE WITH VICTORY SPORTS, AND ONE OF THE LEGISLATURES ACTUALLY REACHED OUT FOR SOME ASSISTANCE WITH THE SPORTS ORGANIZATION IN THEIR IN THEIR IN THEIR DISTRICT.
WHEREVER THERE'S A NEED THEY WILL GO, THEY WILL ASSIST, AND IN THE HIGHEST TIMES OF STRESS, THEY'LL HELP ALLEVIATE THAT AND HELP YOU TO FOCUS ON YOUR LOVED ONE WHEN NOBODY'S FOCUSING ON YOU.
SO LASTLY, THANK YOU FOR BOTH OF YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. IF YOU DO WANT TO REACH OUT AND REQUEST A TOTE, WE ARE ON THE WEB.
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TO HELP PACK TOTES OR DELIVER THEM ANYTHING.WE ARE 100% VOLUNTEER, SO THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
THANK YOU TO HOPE TOTES FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO COME.
[ LOCAL LAWS:]
CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA.ON YOUR TABLET WE'RE HEADING TO LOCAL LAWS.
IF ARE IN THE PAPER COPY, WE ARE ON PAGE THREE.
LOCAL LAW INTRO 1-1 THROUGH AND INCLUDING LOCAL LAW INTRO 6-1 AS INDICATED.
[ COMMITTEE REPORTS:]
COMMITTEE CHAIR JOHNSON.MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL MADE BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY MINORITY LEADER MILLS ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
REPORT NUMBER 11 FROM THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
COMMITTEE CHAIR JOHNSON MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION BY COMMITTEE CHAIR JOHNSON.
SECOND? SECONDED BY THE MINORITY LEADER ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
REPORT NUMBER NINE FROM THE ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
REPORT NUMBER SEVEN FROM THE FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
LEGISLATIVE MEYERS HAS BEEN SECONDED BY.
SECONDED BY THE MINORITY LEADER ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE COMMITTEE CHAIR.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THE REPORT IS APPROVED.
[ LEGISLATOR RESOLUTIONS:]
LEGISLATOR RESOLUTIONS INTRO 15-1.THERE HAS BEEN AN AMENDMENT THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED SO ON THE MOTION TO AMEND.
MAJORITY LEADER MOVE TO CONSIDER.
OH, SORRY, THERE'S BEEN A MOTION TO CONSIDER THE ITEM MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
THE ITEM IS NOW BEFORE THE BODY.
MAJORITY LEADER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MOVE TO AMEND WITH WHAT'S BEEN PASSED OUT.
IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? OKAY. THE ITEM IS AMENDED.
MAJORITY LEADER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
I'LL SPEAK ON THE QUESTION. MR. CLERK. I JUST WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR CONSIDERING THIS ITEM AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO NEED TO PRIORITIZE WOMEN, MINORITY AND DISABLED VETERANS AND THEIR INCLUSION AS IT RELATES TO STATE LOCAL LAWS THAT SAY THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE GOALS TO INCLUDE THEM ON CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS THAT USE PUBLIC DOLLARS BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, BECAUSE THIS HONORABLE BODY HAS DONE SUCH A BEAUTIFUL JOB SINCE COVID-19 OF PRIORITIZING OUR CARE AND OUR INTERESTS FOR SMALL BUSINESSES FROM THE BACK TO BIZ PROGRAM TO THE STOREFRONT REVITALIZATION PROGRAM TO WHAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW WITH THE OFFICE OF THE SHERIFF, WITH THE FORMER DETAINEE TO EMPLOYEE PROGRAM.
I KNOW THAT IT IS IN THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE WITH LOCAL ARTS AND PRIORITIZING ARTISTS.
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STABILIZE THEM ECONOMICALLY, AS THAT'S WHAT KEEPS OUR COMMUNITY THRIVING.SO THIS ANALYSIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEGINNING OF THIS BODY, AS THE MINORITY LEADER SAID, MAKING SURE THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE MARGINALIZED MOST IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE WOMEN OR MINORITIES, AND OUR VETERANS HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLE IF THEY ARE A CONTRACTOR AND CERTIFIED BY THE STATE TO BE INCLUDED ON THIS CONSTRUCTION PROJECT, AND I ENCOURAGE MY COLLEAGUES TO VOTE IN FAVOR.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE RESOLUTION IS APPROVED AS AMENDED.
CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
INTRO 15-2 MAJORITY LEADER MEYERS THIS IS FROM LEGISLATOR TODARO CALLING ON THE COMPTROLLER TO EXAMINE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX FOR CERTAIN HOTELS. SEE LEGISLATOR VINAL STANDING.
LEGISLATOR VINAL. YES, I'D LIKE TO SEND THIS TO COMMITTEE.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO SEND THIS TO COMMITTEE BECAUSE I THINK IT CONTAINS A LOT OF FACTUAL AND LEGAL ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE EXPLORED AND ADDRESSED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ONE OF THE THINGS IN THE WHEREFORE CLAUSE IS SAYING THAT THEY'RE CLAIMING THAT CERTAIN INDIVIDUAL OR THREE INDIVIDUAL BUSINESS PROPERTY OWNERS ARE BEHIND IN THEIR TAXES AND STATING THAT THE TAX DEPARTMENT SHOULD DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY POSSIBLY CAN, INCLUDING FORECLOSURE.
SO ARE WE AS A BODY SAYING THAT WE'RE CHANGING THE FORECLOSURE, THAT NOW WE'RE MAKING IT IF YOU'RE THREE MONTHS BEHIND, IF IT'S A BUSINESS, WE DON'T LIKE THAT, THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO FORECLOSE IMMEDIATELY.
I THINK THAT'S A HUGE ILLEGALITY.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULDN'T JUST LIGHTLY JUST SAY, OH, LET'S DO THAT.
SECOND IS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE BED TAX REMITTED TO HAVE ACTIONS TAKEN THERE ON FORECLOSURE, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE NEEDED TO HAVE A CHANGE IN THAT LAW.
WHEN WE WERE HERE BEFORE ABOUT IT, THE COMPTROLLER STATED SPECIFICALLY THE COMPTROLLER'S DEPUTY COMPTROLLER STATED SPECIFICALLY THAT THERE WAS NO MECHANISM IN OUR CURRENT LAW TO COLLECT THOSE TAXES.
THERE'S NO WAY TO FORECLOSE ON BED TAXES AND OR TO SUE ON THEM AND SO THEREFORE, THAT THEY'RE IN EFFECT, AS SHE REFERRED TO IT, AS VOLUNTARY IN THE SENSE OF THAT WHEN THERE'S NO REMEDY TO DO IT, AND I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH, BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY THIS HOW I RECALL IT, AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IN A RESOLUTION THAT WAS WITH NO CONSIDERATION AND NO COMMITTEE, WE CAN SAY THAT NOW BED TAX, LATE PAYMENTS ON BED TAX ARE FOR THESE PARTICULAR THREE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RESULT IN FORECLOSURE.
ALSO, I STATE THAT THERE'S FACTUAL THINGS THAT AREN'T STATED EXPRESSLY IN IT.
FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A REFERENCE TO A FOUR YEAR OLD STUDY THAT WAS DONE BY THE COMPTROLLER STATING CERTAIN HOTELS WERE USED IN CERTAIN WAYS AND SOME OF THOSE MAY BE THE SAME OR NOT THE SAME , BUT I THINK BEFORE WE TARGET THREE INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYERS, WHICH I'M GOING TO GET TO THE APPROPRIATENESS OF THAT, BUT BEFORE WE TARGET THAT, WE SHOULD ACTUALLY KNOW THE FACTS ON THAT, AND FINALLY, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD AT LEAST CONSIDER WHETHER WE WANT TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF FIGURING OUT THAT WE DON'T LIKE SOMETHING.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO PAY THEIR TAXES LATE.
THEY PAY HIGH INTEREST. THEY DON'T GET THEM.
THEY DON'T GET A FREE NOT PAYING THEIR TAXES.
THEY PAY HUGE INTEREST RATES ON LATE PAYMENTS.
SO I THINK THAT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE BUSINESS OF TARGETING INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYERS PUBLICLY IN THIS WAY, LIKE SHAMING THEM ALMOST IN THIS WAY, THAT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD AND SUGGESTING THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE THESE THREE TAXPAYERS SHOULD BE FORECLOSED ON AS OPPOSED TO BE IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF WAITING FOR WHEN THEY'RE BEYOND THREE YEARS.
YES, THEY COULD LOSE THEIR PROPERTY TO FORECLOSURE, BUT I THINK BECAUSE OF THAT, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO JUST GIVE IT THE LAST MINUTE WITHOUT A CHANCE AT A COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND WITHOUT ACTUALLY THE WHEREFORE CLAUSES THAT ARE SUGGESTING THIS, MAYBE THIS OR MAYBE THAT, DO WE ACTUALLY GET THE FACTS ON THAT? SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD ASK THE CHAIR TO CONSIDER SENDING THIS TO A COMMITTEE FOR A FULL DISCUSSION AND FOR ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS AND TO SEE THE LEGALITY OF DOING THESE THINGS.
OKAY. WELL, YOU MADE TWO REQUESTS.
I'M NOT AGAINST SENDING IT TO COMMITTEE.
LEGISLATOR TODARO I HOPE TO HAVE YOUR SUPPORT TO HAVE A COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON THIS.
DO YOU WISH TO BE HEARD ON THE ITEM OR CAN WE SEND.
OKAY. YES, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, SIR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS NOT A DIRECT ATTACK TO INDIVIDUAL BUSINESSES.
THERE'S IN THE RESOLUTION IT SAYS LEGAL STEPS TO BE TAKEN.
WE ARE NOT. THESE ARE PUBLIC DOLLARS THAT ARE BEING PAID FOR THE ASYLUM SEEKERS.
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WE ARE NOT RECEIVING ANY TAX WHATSOEVER FROM THOSE FUNDS IS ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE, AND THEN WHY? WHY ARE WE ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN? THIS IS OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE COMING IN.SO I'M ONLY REQUESTING THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TO MOVE FORWARD AND LOOK INTO IT.
THAT'S ALL I'M REQUESTING. THANK YOU.
ARE WE GOING TO INVESTIGATE THAT WOMAN OR ARE WE GOING TO INVESTIGATE HER? ONLY IF SHE'S DOING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT IN FAVOR OF.
THIS IS THERE'S NO COUNTY MONEY GOING TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS.
IT'S A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE STATE AND.
THESE PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THAT.
THE ONE HOTEL USED TO BE USED ALL THE TIME BY AAA TO DO ARBITRATIONS.
I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE, BUT MAYBE I'M WRONG, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A COMMITTEE DISCUSSION ON IT TO SEE IF THAT IS APPROPRIATE AND THAT THERE IS NO ILLEGALITY ON DOING THAT, WHICH I THINK THERE DEFINITELY IS AN UNSEEMLINESS OF GOING AFTER THREE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS.
OKAY. JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARITY, ARE THESE MEMBERS RESPONDING TO EACH OTHER'S QUESTIONS OR ARE THEY SPEAKING ON THE ITEM? THEY ARE. OKAY.
DID YOU WANT ANOTHER RESPONSE? LEGISLATOR THE SECOND TIME? YES, MADAM CHAIR.
YOU'RE STILL ON YOUR FIRST TIME. YOU'RE JUST RESPONDING.
LET'S NOT FORGET THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THAT THE TAX DOLLARS ARE BEING UTILIZED CORRECTLY, AND THIS HERE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT OUT TO THE PUBLIC EYE AND LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING, AND I'M JUST REQUESTING AN INVESTIGATION.
I'LL LOOK INTO IT A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.
THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING. THANK YOU.
LEGISLATOR TODARO JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARITY, ARE YOU AGAINST THIS ITEM BEING SENT TO COMMITTEE? THERE IS A PROPER MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO SEND IT TO COMMITTEE, BUT OKAY.
FIRST OF ALL, IS THERE A SECOND ON SENDING IT TO COMMITTEE? OKAY SO LEGISLATOR JOHNSON SECONDS SENDING IT TO COMMITTEE ON THE MOTION TO SEND IT TO COMMITTEE.
CALL VOTE] THE VOTE IS 6 TO 5.
OKAY, SO THIS ITEM WILL BE SENT TO COMMITTEE.
OH, WE WILL SEND THIS TO FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT.
OKAY. CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA, COMMUNICATIONS DISCHARGED FROM COMMITTEE.
[ COMMUNICATIONS DISCHARGED FROM COMMITTEE:]
MR. MEYERS, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.MOVE TO DISCHARGE COMMUNICATION 7E-24 FROM THE ENERGY ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE.
OKAY. THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO DISCHARGE COMMUNICATION 7E-24.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY MINORITY LEADER MILLS.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES, AND THE ITEM IS NOW BEFORE THE BODY.
MAJORITY LEADER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MOVE TO AMEND COMMUNICATIONS 7E-24 WITH WHAT'S BEEN SENT OUT.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO AMEND THE ITEM MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION OF THE AMENDMENT.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE ITEM IS AMENDED.
MAJORITY LEADER. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MOVE TO APPROVE COMMUNICATION 7E-24 AS AMENDED.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR MILLS.
ROLL CALL VOTE AS A DISCHARGE ON THE APPROVAL.
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CALL VOTE] 11 TO 0.MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
[INAUDIBLE] PROPER MOTION TO DISCHARGE MADE BY LEGISLATOR BY OUR MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE DISCHARGE? HI. ANY OPPOSED OF DISCHARGE? 11-0. THE MOTION CARRIES, AND THE RESOLUTION IS NOW BEFORE THE BODY.
MR. MEYERS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
MOVE TO AMEND INTRO 12-2 WITH WHAT'S BEEN SENT OUT.
OKAY. THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO AMEND.
YES, THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO AMEND THE ITEM MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE RESOLUTION IS AMENDED.
MAJORITY LEADER. MADAM CHAIR, MOVE TO APPROVE INTRO 12-2 AS AMENDED.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS AMENDED MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
THIS IS A DISCHARGE, SO WE'LL HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE.
OKAY. THE ITEM IS APPROVED AS AMENDED.
CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
LEGISLATOR TODARO, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE TO DISCHARGE COMMUNICATION 11E-35 FROM THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
OKAY. THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO DISCHARGE COMMUNICATION.
THIS IS FROM THE OFFICE OF THE SHERIFF REGARDING LEASE SPACE AT TEN CENTER DRIVE IN ORCHARD PARK.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? MADAM CHAIR, THERE IS A SECOND.
YES, WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE RECORD.
MAJORITY LEADER. [INAUDIBLE] I WILL ACCEPT A RECESS.
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. YEAH, WE WILL HAVE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
THANK YOU, EVERYONE. WE ARE RESUMING SESSION NUMBER 15 OF THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE.
MR. CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL? CALL] ALL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT. THANK YOU, MR. CLERK. WHEN WE LEFT OFF, WE WERE ON INTRO 11E-35.
THERE WAS A DISCHARGE MADE BY LEGISLATOR TODARO, A SECOND BY LEGISLATOR MALCZEWSKI, AND THIS IS ON THE ITEM FROM THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE REGARDING LEASE SPACE AT TEN CENTER DRIVE IN ORCHARD PARK.
A DISCHARGE FROM COMMITTEE IS NON-DEBATABLE.
MEMBERS IF YOU WISH TO EXPLAIN YOUR VOTE, YOU ARE WELCOME, BUT I'M GOING TO ASK MR. CLERK TO JUST ENTERTAIN A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE ITEM I'M [INAUDIBLE] YES. YES.
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT'S JUST DISCHARGE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN YOUR VOTE? I WILL SPEAK IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN WHY YOU'RE DISCHARGING IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO DISCHARGE IT BECAUSE IT'S THE TIME OF THE ESSENCE.
YOUR COUNTY SHERIFF'S EMPLOYEES IS BAR NONE A PRIORITY, AND WE SHOULD TAKE THAT.
OTHER THINGS, OUR COUNTY RECORDS, OUR COUNTY ASSETS ARE IN A BUNKER THAT HAS A LOT OF ASBESTOS.
SO I ASK THAT YOU MOVE THIS ALONG AND HOPEFULLY GET IT PASSED.
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THEY SAID IT'S THE SAME OWNER.NOW, TODAY THEY SAY IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT OWNER THEN THE COUNTY, THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, THE THE THE COUNCIL SAID THAT IT'S THE SAME OWNER, AND THE SHERIFF SAID, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE OWNER IS AND YET THEY'VE TOLD US PREVIOUSLY THAT THE SHERIFF WAS OUT THERE MULTIPLE TIMES WITH THE OWNER.
SO EVEN THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE OWNER IS, AND THEN HOW ARE WE GOING TO SAY THAT IT'S A RESPONSIBLE OWNER WHEN ALL WE KNOW FOR SURE IS THAT THEY PROVIDED A LEASE LAST YEAR AT A PROPOSAL WHICH SAYS THEY MUST KEEP IT OPEN FOR SO MANY A TIME, FOR SO LONG, AND THEN THEY SAID, WE CAN'T SELL IT TO YOU EITHER BECAUSE THERE'S A NEW TENANT, EITHER BECAUSE THE TENANT EXTENDED OR WHATEVER THE REASON THEY COULDN'T DELIVER, AND THAT TO ME IS AT LEAST THE SUGGESTION THAT THEY'RE NOT A RESPONSIBLE BIDDER.
IF THEY ALREADY TRIED TO OFFER A PROPOSAL AND THEN DIDN'T, AND THEN THEIR ANSWER IS LET'S GET A NEW PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET, LET'S DOUBLE THE PRICE AND LET'S INCREASE THE ESCALATOR BY A THIRD, AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE SHERIFF ASKING OR JUST BECAUSE A PARTICULAR FAMILY IS ASKING.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD JUST GLOSS OVER.
LET'S GIVE THEM OFF OF THEIR CONTRACT WITHOUT WHY DON'T WE SUE THEM FOR THE FIRST CONTRACT THAT THEY SAID THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE AND THEN THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE AND THEY'RE DOUBLING THE PRICE AND INCREASING BY A THIRD.
I THINK THAT'S AT LEAST WORTH A DISCUSSION.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS IT BECAUSE IT'S A TEN YEAR LEASE, IT HAS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE CAN DO ONE BEFORE THE OTHER, THERE'S STILL NO IMPETUS TO DO IT IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THAT EVENTUALLY.
SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE AGREEING TO SPEND ALL THIS MONEY.
ANOTHER THING IS, IS THAT THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE USING WE'VE HEARD HERE THAT THIS IS CONDEMNED.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT THEY AT LEAST WE GO TO COMMITTEE, BUT IF YOU WANT TO DISCHARGE IT NOW , BUT THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I JUST WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT WE AS A BODY DON'T KNOW. WE HAVE MISINFORMATION AND WE CAN'T JUST THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL THAT WE FEEL SO MUCH THAT WE MUST KOWTOW TO THEM IF THEY ASK FOR SOMETHING, THERE SHOULD BE NO FAMILY, THAT WE MUST JUST ACCEPT ANYTHING, DOUBLE THE PRICE ON US, INCREASE THE ESCALATOR.
SO FOR THOSE REASONS, I'M VOTING NO ON THE DISCHARGE AND OBVIOUSLY NO ON THE OTHER PART TOO.
[INAUDIBLE]. LEGISLATOR TODARO.
THIS IS WHERE I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT.
ALL IN FAVOR? I'M SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE AMENDMENT.
OKAY. ON THE QUESTION OF THE AMENDMENT.
CAN SHE ASK A QUESTION TO THE SPONSOR ON THE AMENDMENT? THIS IS A COMMUNICATION, RIGHT? THE COMMUNICATION. YOU CAN POSE YOUR QUESTION.
LEGISLATOR I DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE ASKING THE QUESTION TO, THOUGH.
MY QUESTION TO THE SPONSOR OF THE AMENDMENT IS WHERE'S THE 750,000 THAT THE THE THE WE FOUND OUT TODAY THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER IS GOING TO PUT IN. WHERE IS THAT IN THE AMENDMENT? ARE WE APPROVING IT WITH THE 750 OR WITHOUT THE 750? IS MY QUESTION, BECAUSE IT'S NOT MENTIONED IN HERE AND IT WAS MENTIONED TODAY.
ARE WE GETTING UP TO 750 AND LETTING HIM HAVE THE PASS, APPROVING THE ITEM AS IT'S BEFORE THE BODY? SO WITHOUT THE 750, WE'RE LETTING IT HAVE A PASS AND WE'RE GIVING OUT 750,000 TODAY FOR THIS RESTAURANT.
DID YOU KNOW IT'S COMING FROM THE OFFICES, THE OFFICE OF THE SHERIFF AND DPW? THEY IT'S A COMMUNICATION.
SO IT'S A COMMUNICATION AMENDMENT.
SO SOMEONE HAS I KNOW THEY'RE AMENDING THE COMMUNICATION.
THE DEPARTMENTS ARE AMENDING THE COMMUNICATION.
SO I THINK THAT MAY HAVE BEEN BETTER SERVED DURING THE WORK SESSION WHEN THEY WERE PRESENT.
ARE WE GIVING IT UP THEN AND GIVING THEM A PASS ON THAT TOO, OR ARE WE NOT DOING THAT? I'M JUST ASKING THE QUESTION OF OUR FELLOW MEMBERS IS THAT ARE WE AMENDING IT WITH THE 750 OR WITHOUT THE 750? THAT'S ALMOST $1 MILLION TO THE COUNTY THAT WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM WITH APPROVING THIS TODAY BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE SO URGENT.
UM, I'M GOING TO CALL IT FIVE MINUTE RECESS.
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ZOOMING SESSION NUMBER 15 OF THE ERIE COUNTY LEGISLATURE JULY 20TH, 2023.MR. CLERK, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL?.
OKAY, SO WE WERE ON THE MOTION TO AMEND, AND LEGISLATOR VINAL WAS ACKNOWLEDGED TO ASK A QUESTION.
WE RECESSED AND I'M GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE LEGISLATOR TODARO ON THE FLOOR.
I MOVE TO RESCIND MY PREVIOUS MOTION TO AMEND.
OKAY, SO THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION.
OKAY, SO HE'S JUST SENDING HIS PROPER.
PROPERLY RESCINDING HIS PREVIOUS AMENDMENT.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVED TO AMEND WITH WHAT'S BEEN PASSED OUT TO WHAT'S BEEN PASSED OUT.
THANK YOU. SO THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION TO AMEND THE ITEM WITH WHAT'S BEEN PASSED OUT.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR MALCZEWSKI ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE'RE AMENDING THE ITEM WITH WHAT'S BEFORE YOU.
SO THE MOTION TO AMEND IS APPROVED.
PROPER MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM AS AMENDED MADE BY LEGISLATOR TODARO.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR MALCZEWSKI.
ON THE QUESTION. ON THE QUESTION.
SO WE'RE STARTING ON A NEW THING.
SO BASICALLY THIS IS SAYING THAT WE'RE ASKING THAT ON THE ONE HAND IT'S RESOLVED AS IF THERE'S A LEASE THAT IS NEGOTIATED AND THAT'S GOING TO BE $710 A YEAR FOR FOUR YEARS, AND THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, WE'RE ASKING NOW TO HAVE PLANNING TO DO THE BUILD OUT TODAY OF 786,000. WE'RE ADDING THE RESOLVE CLAUSE THAT SAYS THAT IT'S CONTINGENT ON A CONTRACTUAL 750 ALLOTMENT FROM THE LANDLORD FOR BUILD OUTS. SO WE'RE SAYING THAT IF THE LANDLORD DOES AGREE TO THE 750, THEN WE WILL USE THIS MONEY AND IF THEY DON'T AGREE, WE WON'T USE.
BUT THE THING IS THAT THE LEASE HASN'T.
WE'RE SPENDING 786,000 ON SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CONTRACT WITH SOMEBODY THAT ALREADY WE DID THIS THE LAST TIME THEY TOOK IT BACK AND DOUBLED THE PRICE, AND WE'RE TRYING TO I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE RUSHING THIS FOR NO REASON.
WE DON'T HAVE THE LEASE NOW AGREED TO.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT THIS BE VOTED NO NOW NOT TO PUT THE WHOLE THING OUT, BUT JUST THAT THIS PUTTING THE 780 TOWARDS IT NOW THAT IT BE WAITED UNTIL THE WHOLE THING IS DECIDED AND APPROVED ON THE QUESTION, THE MOTION IS TO APPROVE AS AMENDED.
OKAY. ROLL CALL VOTE, MR. CLERK. LEGISLATOR GREEN.
IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS AMENDED? AS AMENDED? AT THE START OF THE DAY, I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS GOING TO BE ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE PROPERTIES, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THAT 103 NEW YORK STATE LAW ISN'T THE GREATEST WRITTEN LAW AND WOULD EVEN ALLOW THIS NOT TO HAVE TO GO TO BID. BUT WITH THAT SAID, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC LOCATION OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE BID, THERE'S ONLY TWO THAT MAKE SENSE AS FAR AS ACCESS TO THE THRUWAY , AND THE REASON THAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME ON MONDAY NIGHT.
ON MONDAY NIGHT AT 12:15 A LITTLE PAST MIDNIGHT, MY SON WOKE ME UP.
MY DRYER WAS ON FIRE, SMOKE WAS COMING OUT, AND IT WAS PRETTY, PRETTY BAD, AND THE ONLY THING THAT STOOD BETWEEN MY HOUSE GOING UP AND JUST HAVING SMOKE DAMAGE WAS THE FIRE COMPANY GETTING THERE IN A TIMELY MANNER, KNOWING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE EMERGENCY SERVICES THAT NEED TO
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BE NEED TO BE REPLYING TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT ISSUES OUT OF THESE LOCATIONS.IT'S VERY, VERY CLEAR THAT WE NEED ACCESS TO A THRUWAY AND THE CENTER DRIVE LOCATION SEEMS TO BE TAILOR MADE TO WHEN SECONDS COUNT AND MINUTES COUNT.
THIS IS THE LOCATION THAT MAKES THE MOST AMOUNT OF SENSE AND I STAND IN FAVOR.
CALL CONT'D] WE'VE JUST SCRATCHED THE SURFACE WITH THIS ISSUE.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS EVER QUESTIONED THE ACTUALLY THE LOCATION OR WHAT IS THE BEST INTEREST IN LOCATION FOR A TIMELY FASHION.
THAT'S THE SHERIFF'S DECISION.
WE RESPECT THAT, BUT OUR DECISION HERE TODAY IS TO MAKE THE BEST FINANCIAL DECISION FOR THIS COUNTY, AND WE RAISED SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE KIND OF ANSWERED.
THE QUESTION WE RAISED CREATED MORE QUESTIONS, AND AS YOU SEE, WE HAD A COUPLE TIMEOUTS, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM, DELAYS FOR MORE DISCUSSION, IT WAS MORE DISCUSSION ON PROCEDURE.
NOW, WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? WE'RE APPROVING HERE TODAY, IN ESSENCE, THIS TO MOVE FORWARD.
BECAUSE THERE HAS TO BE A LOCAL LAW.
WITHOUT THE LOCAL LAW, WE CAN'T SIGN A TEN YEAR LEASE.
SO THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP WERE VALID.
THIS WAS RUSHED, BUT I'M GOING TO VOTE YES TO APPROVE THIS TODAY BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS, AND WHAT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME LITERALLY FIVE MINUTES AGO WAS WE NEED TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. IT'S NOT A LEASE.
THE SHERIFF'S NOT GETTING A LEASE.
WE DID THIS BACKWARDS BECAUSE IT WAS RUSHED.
THE THE LOCAL LAW SHOULD HAVE BEEN FIRST SO WE COULD HAVE PROPERLY APPROVED THE LEASE FOR THE APPLICANT TO MOVE FORWARD. THEY'RE NOT MOVING FORWARD WITHOUT A TEN YEAR LEASE.
THIS INITIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY SO WE CAN THEN GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO GO.
WE'LL ALL BE BACK HERE FOR A LOCAL LAW.
TO SEE THINGS THROUGH THE RIGHT WAY.
EXPLAIN MY VOTE. I THINK MY COLLEAGUE, LEGISLATOR BARGNESI SAID IT VERY WELL.
THIS PROCESS WAS JUST KIND OF TURNED INSIDE OUT AND DONE BACKWARDS.
HOWEVER, I DO UNDERSTAND A MAJORITY OF WHAT HAS BEEN LAID OUT BEFORE THIS BODY AND BEING SOMEONE THAT HAS ALWAYS PRIORITIZED COUNTY FACILITIES, BEING KEPT TO A POSITION WHERE THEY ARE SAFE AND WHERE THE PUBLIC, ESPECIALLY AROUND PUBLIC SAFETY, HAS IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO COUNTY SERVICES AND THAT EMPLOYEES OF THE COUNTY HAVE COMFORT AND THAT THEIR SAFETY IS PRIORITIZED.
LEGISLATOR VINAL IS MY FRIEND, BUT I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH COMMENTS THAT WOULD REFLECT ANYBODY IN THIS BODY, ESPECIALLY ME BEING PUSHED AROUND BY THE SHERIFF, BEING BULLIED BY THE SHERIFF.
I HAVE A HISTORY OF BEING IN THIS BODY AND STANDING UP TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, AND THERE WAS A TIME BEFORE THIS CLASS OF LEGISLATORS WERE HERE WHERE I WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT WAS STANDING UP TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE QUITE AGGRESSIVELY.
SO I DON'T GET PUSHED AROUND BY MY COLLEAGUES IN GOVERNMENT AT ALL, AND I THINK THAT MY VOTE OF YES TODAY IS A REFLECTION OF ME WANTING TO SEE THE SITUATION WITH THE BUNKER, FIND RESOLVE, MOVE FORWARD, AND KNOWING THAT THE POWER THAT I HAVE AS A LEGISLATOR AND YOUR PARTNER HERE IN GOVERNMENT TO REVIEW DOCUMENTS, TO RESCIND VOTES AND TO CHANGE UP HOW
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THINGS GO CAN BE EXERCISED AT ANY MOMENT.SHOULD I FEEL THE TAXPAYER DOLLAR IS BEING ABUSED? AND I HAVE ALWAYS OPERATED THAT WAY.
OKAY. THE ITEM IS APPROVED AS AMENDED, CONTINUING ON WITH OUR AGENDA.
[ SUSPENSION OF THE RULES:]
SUSPENSION OF THE RULES.MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE ONE SUSPENSION FOR COMMITTEE.
FROM THE COUNTY CLERK LETTER TO THE STATE COMPTROLLER AUDIT REQUEST FOR THE ERIE COUNTY COMPTROLLER.
SECOND. THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION MADE.
YOU'RE RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. [INAUDIBLE] SECOND? THIS ITEM IS DIRECTED TO THE FINANCE AND MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE.
[ COMMUNICATIONS FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS:]
INDICATED COMMUNICATION 15E-4 FROM THE COMPTROLLER.MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I JUST LOOK AT THIS.
THIS IS 15E-5, CORRECT? YEP. I JUST WANT TO GET THIS AS A CONTRACTOR, IT'S $30,000 TO PUT IN A BASEMENT AND A FOUNDATION.
I HAVE A HARD TIME SEEING HOW $300,000.
I HAVE NO ISSUE RECOGNIZING THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
I JUST HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE COST FOR $300,000.
THANK YOU, MR. CLERK. WE CALLED THE QUESTION.
WE VOTED IN LEGISLATOR MALCZEWSKI VOTED IN THE NEGATIVE.
SECOND MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
COMMUNICATION 15E-7 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE CONTRACTS FOR TRAINING SERVICES AND LEARNING MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. CONTRACT MAJORITY LEADER.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVAL.
SECOND, PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
SECOND, IT'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-9 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO MUNICIPAL AGREEMENTS TO IMPLEMENT MUNICIPAL PLANNING GRANT PROGRAM.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
SECOND. PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
SECOND BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE GROVER CLEVELAND GOLF COURSE CONCESSIONAIRE CONTRACT MAJORITY LEADER.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
SECOND. PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
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MAJORITY LEADER MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.SECOND, PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-12 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE REGARDING IMPOSITION OF THE SALES TAX EXEMPTION ON RESIDENTIAL ENERGY SOURCES.
MAJORITY LEADER. MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION [INAUDIBLE].
SECOND. PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-13 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE PUBLIC AUCTION OF SURPLUS COUNTY OWNED PARCELS.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
SECOND PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-14 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO ONLINE AUCTIONEER SERVICES MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION OR SECOND PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-15 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE APPOINTMENT TO THE HEALTH THE ERIE COUNTY HEALTH EQUITY ADVISORY BOARD MAJORITY LEADER MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
SECOND, PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
APPOINTMENT TO THE ERIE COUNTY HEALTH EQUITY ADVISORY BOARD.
MAJORITY LEADER. YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
SECOND. PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
SECOND BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-17.
APPOINTMENT TO THE ERIE COUNTY HEALTH EQUITY ADVISORY BOARD.
MAJORITY LEADER FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
SECOND. PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-18 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE EXTEND THE CONTRACT PERIODS OF CURRENT GRANTS.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
SECOND. PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
THE MOTION CARRIES. THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
COMMUNICATION 15E-19 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE REGARDING ERIE MET ON THE 15TH FLOOR.
MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION OR APPROVAL.
SECOND. MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ROLL CALL VOTE. ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ITEM. MR. CLERK. THANK YOU.
JUST TO EXPLAIN MY VOTE REAL QUICK.
THIS WORK IS SOMETHING THAT CLEARLY NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I WOULD JUST BE MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE IF WE ACTUALLY KNEW WHO THE CONTRACTOR WAS, WHAT THE ALLOCATED EXPENSES ARE GOING TO BE IN THE END, AND BASED ON THE TIMELINE THAT WAS PROVIDED, WE SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME WHEN WE COME BACK TO APPROVE THIS IN A PROPER MANNER.
SO I'M GOING TO VOTE NO ON THIS.
THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE FOR A REASON.
[INAUDIBLE] IT'S ESSENTIALLY THIS LONG TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A TIGHT TIMELINE FOR GETTING THIS UP AND GOING.
MILES AND MILES OF CABLE [INAUDIBLE] THESE BOARD MEETINGS.
SO I VOTE YES. I AM ALSO A NO.
I'M JUST AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS IT'S MY JOB TO BE SURE THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF PASSING SOMETHING AND REASSURING SOMETHING BEFORE I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THAT ABILITY TO SOMEONE JUST YET WITHOUT MY VOTE.
THE MOTION CARRIES COMMUNICATION.
15E-20 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE REGARDING RECONSTRUCTION OF COLVIN AVENUE AND EGGERT ROAD.
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MAJORITY LEADER YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM CHAIR.I MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
THE MOTION CARRIES. THE ITEM IS APPROVED.
YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM CHAIR.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
THERE'S A PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
SECOND SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-22 REGARDING SEWER DISTRICT NUMBER EIGHT MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
SECOND. IT'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
SECOND. PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER, SECOND BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
MOVE FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
SECOND PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
ALL IN FAVOR ANY OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-25 INCLUDING COMMUNICATION 15E-28 AS INDICATED COMMUNICATION 15E-29 FROM THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE REGARDING LEGISLATURE NOTIFICATION TO THE LEGISLATURE OF THE APPOINTMENT OF THE PROBATION OF THE COMMISSIONER OF PROBATION MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL.
ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES THE ITEM IS APPROVED COMMUNICATION 15E-30 FROM THE MINORITY LEADER RECOMMENDATION AND APPOINTMENT TO THE CORRECTIONS SPECIALIST ADVISORY BOARD, MR. MEYERS.
MOVE FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
THERE'S BEEN A PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
WE'LL HAVE THE SECOND BE THE MINORITY LEADER ON THE QUESTION.
COMMUNICATION 15E-31 AS INDICATED COMMUNICATION 15E-32 AND COMMUNICATION 15E-33 AS INDICATED COMMUNICATION 15E-34 FROM THE CLERK REGARDING AUTHORIZATION TO ENTER INTO LEASE AT THE CHEEKTOWAGA SATELLITE AUTO BUREAU MAJORITY LEADER, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR FOR IMMEDIATE CONSIDERATION.
PROPER MOTION MADE BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
IT'S BEEN SECONDED BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON ON THE QUESTION.
[ COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE DEPARTMENTS:]
COMMUNICATION 15D-2 AS INDICATED.[ COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PEOPLE AND OTHER AGENCIES:]
COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE PEOPLE IN OTHER AGENCIES, COMMUNICATION 15M-1 THROUGH AND INCLUDING COMMUNICATION 15M-SIX AS INDICATED ANNOUNCEMENTS.[ ANNOUNCEMENTS:]
THE LEGISLATURE'S NEXT SCHEDULED SESSION IS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 7TH.I WANT TO WISH EVERYONE A HAPPY SUMMER RECESS.
STAY SAFE AND WE WILL SEE YOU IN SEPTEMBER.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER. ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE FLOOR.
PLEASE RISE FOR MEMORIAL RESOLUTIONS.
[ MEMORIAL RESOLUTIONS:]
MR. CLERK, I'D LIKE TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF SIDNEY LOHR.SHE IS THE DAUGHTER OF LONGTIME PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEE BRIDGET LOHR.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE TO ADJOURN IN THE MEMORY OF ROBERT [INAUDIBLE] AND EDWARD MISCHKA.
EDWARD MISCHKA WAS A FORMER LANCASTER SCHOOL DISTRICT SUPERINTENDENT SERVING FOR OVER 46 YEARS AS A TEACHER AND ADMINISTRATOR, DEDICATED HIS LIFE TO PUBLIC EDUCATION.
THANK YOU, MISS HARRY, FOR YOUR LAST LEGISLATOR.
A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE GONE ON TO BE WITH THE LORD.
AMEN. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MADE BY LEGISLATOR JOHNSON, SECONDED BY THE MAJORITY LEADER.
ALL IN FAVOR OF THE ADJOURNMENT.
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